Eyeball Records (indie, album, members, shows, band)

swim · 04-20-2007, 05:29 PM

...sucks the c0ck.

IndieHQ [Eyeball Records brings down music blog/pirating site, Kinixtion]

Anyway it's got me think that musicbanter is sharing based not greediness or laziness but out of like love you know. And with new admin and shit like this I don't know if that will always be. I honestly think that sharing promotes buying. I wouldn't listen to 99% of what I listen to if it wasn't for stealing.

matious · 04-20-2007, 05:30 PM

as long as you change the link or code it they cant find out right?

swim · 04-20-2007, 05:34 PM

No. They can still find out. All it takes is for one label to run over my site and it's gone. I took a demo off of it today because a band asked me.

The upload sites don't contact the music industry that people are using their site illegally. More than likely because if they contacted them then they'd be shut down and would cease to make money. So the upload sites check uploads that get an extremely high number of hits [that seems to just be just sendspace that does a hit thing everyone else does the latter] or linked from a certain area a lot and delete them to save their own ass.

The Dave · 04-20-2007, 05:43 PM

What if we just pm the uploads? They can't check those.

swim · 04-20-2007, 05:47 PM

Yea mailing lists are pretty safe.

Upload sites don't keep a record of who downloads from them, right? I mean I figure they need as much server space as they can get.

**sleepy jack** · 04-20-2007, 05:49 PM

Yeah I PMed urban about this, they give you time to take down the uploads though. But if everyone could start PMing links that'd be better, I know live shows and sessions are usually legally, the RIAA shut down elliottsmithbsides but the live album stayed up.

I could restart the mailing list, MX does it.

**right-track** · 04-20-2007, 05:59 PM

Twango - Media Sharing: Photos, Video, Audio and More

I think this site allows groups to open a channel (it can be private ie; members on invitation only, or public), where files can be uploaded and shared between members of that group.

e.g; MusicBanter Channel (if one was made) then you can access the channel by entering an e-mail address...not too sure how it works, but it may be worth checking out further.

swim · 04-20-2007, 06:02 PM

I just have the feeling that if the admin were confronted that this place would be wiped clean or abandoned. It would be pretty difficult to find all the upload links on this place.

**sleepy jack** · 04-20-2007, 06:08 PM

We'd just have to delete the sharing threads, search on the function megaupload, sendspace, mediafire, etc and have members report them if they see them.

And whether or not we delete them I think we should start PMing links more and get the email list back up.

matious · 04-20-2007, 06:08 PM

or we could make a email system a la sputnikmusic

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04-20-2007, 05:29 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	Eyeball Records ...sucks the c0ck. IndieHQ [Eyeball Records brings down music blog/pirating site, Kinixtion] Anyway it's got me think that musicbanter is sharing based not greediness or laziness but out of like love you know. And with new admin and shit like this I don't know if that will always be. I honestly think that sharing promotes buying. I wouldn't listen to 99% of what I listen to if it wasn't for stealing. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

04-20-2007, 05:30 PM
matious Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,462	as long as you change the link or code it they cant find out right?

04-20-2007, 05:34 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	No. They can still find out. All it takes is for one label to run over my site and it's gone. I took a demo off of it today because a band asked me. The upload sites don't contact the music industry that people are using their site illegally. More than likely because if they contacted them then they'd be shut down and would cease to make money. So the upload sites check uploads that get an extremely high number of hits [that seems to just be just sendspace that does a hit thing everyone else does the latter] or linked from a certain area a lot and delete them to save their own ass. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

04-20-2007, 05:43 PM
The Dave Me and The Major Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,887	What if we just pm the uploads? They can't check those. __________________ My collection,winkwinkcoughcough

04-20-2007, 05:47 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	Yea mailing lists are pretty safe. Upload sites don't keep a record of who downloads from them, right? I mean I figure they need as much server space as they can get. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

04-20-2007, 05:49 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,373	Yeah I PMed urban about this, they give you time to take down the uploads though. But if everyone could start PMing links that'd be better, I know live shows and sessions are usually legally, the RIAA shut down elliottsmithbsides but the live album stayed up. I could restart the mailing list, MX does it. __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.

04-20-2007, 05:59 PM
right-track Avin' It! Join Date: May 2005 Location: THE PEOPLES ЯEPUBLIK ФF MAИCUИIA Posts: 5,287	Twango - Media Sharing: Photos, Video, Audio and More I think this site allows groups to open a channel (it can be private ie; members on invitation only, or public), where files can be uploaded and shared between members of that group. e.g; MusicBanter Channel (if one was made) then you can access the channel by entering an e-mail address...not too sure how it works, but it may be worth checking out further. __________________ Choose Liverpool. Choose the dole queue. Choose to scam disability benefit. Choose mind-numbing, grinding efficiency over flair. Choose Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma and Paul Stewart. Choose not to win a single league title since the backpass rule was implemented. Choose penalties. Choose car stereos, hubcaps and stanley knives. Choose to trade on your proud sense of tradition and then not lift a finger in protest when two American billionaires who don't even know the name of your club decide to buy it. Choose to win the European Cup whilst only having to play seven matches. Choose to bask in a perpetual, sickening, media love-in. Choose celebrities who ** off out of your city as soon as they have earned the money to do so and then spend the rest of their lives harping on about how wonderful it is. Choose to sing about Munich until confronted with your own tragedy. Choose to end it all in an orgy of self pity, just another excuse to perpetuate the grief culture spawned by your selfish, insular **ed-up excuse for a city. Choose your future. Choose Scouse.

04-20-2007, 06:02 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	I just have the feeling that if the admin were confronted that this place would be wiped clean or abandoned. It would be pretty difficult to find all the upload links on this place. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

04-20-2007, 06:08 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,373	We'd just have to delete the sharing threads, search on the function megaupload, sendspace, mediafire, etc and have members report them if they see them. And whether or not we delete them I think we should start PMing links more and get the email list back up. __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.