Could we please make fur fashionable again? (American, rapper, quote)

tkpb938 · 05-04-2008, 01:48 PM

I really could care less about an industry that makes its profit from selling off the death of animals to rich snobs... After all fur coats are generally considered an "elite" clothing item. The trapping industry should die, native american tradition or not...

**Piss Me Off** · 05-04-2008, 01:52 PM

I agree.

bsmix · 05-04-2008, 02:28 PM

is this a joke?? "help an Indian, kill a beaver!" Fashion changes, we don't need skins to keep us warm anymore. It's not the 1600's.

arob · 05-04-2008, 03:04 PM

Mr. Dave? Wow you are open minded huh? am I an idiot just because you said so??.. I mean your argument is so convincing. All those intelligent points you made. I can see now why you are so superior.

**sleepy jack** · 05-04-2008, 03:58 PM

There's nothing superior about what he did. He just took two moronic quotes from you and emphasized them all this proves is your own inferiority.

Anyway I'm completely against fur and I don't think I need to explain why because it's obvious you wouldn't understand anyway.

matious · 05-04-2008, 04:35 PM

**** you guys

racoon hats are coming back

jibber · 05-04-2008, 05:50 PM

well, i'm going to have to jump of the "you're an idiot bandwagon," but not for the reasons that many others are.

I will probably be cruified for saying this, but in many areas of the world, revitalized commercial fur trades are helping stabalize ecosystems after the invasion of non-native species who overwhelm the local environment with no natural predators. In those situations, the fur trade is a viable solution. However, the only animal you mentioned was the beaver, which is hardly an invasive species since it does have a wide range of natural predators in North America. The only reason they are at times believed to be a pest is that urban areas are encroaching on their natural habitat, and their damns at times flood these urban areas. Were you to suggest the revival of the beaver fur trade in Argentina, it may have worked, because following the failure of that same project when beavers were introduced there in the 40's, they are now most certainly an invasive species.

So in summary, you have no idea what you're talking about. So unless you find an animal who's fur HAS actually proved to be valuable, and that is legitimately and invasive species that is harming the local ecosystems, kindly take a seat.

Nosmada · 05-04-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

**** you guys

racoon hats are coming back

I agree, they are everywhere in toronto, and arob being from toronto should know that. One of my god dam neighbors feeds the things.

mr dave · 05-04-2008, 08:59 PM

i'm actually for trapping and have argued in favour of the annual seal hunt off the atlantic coast of canada on other sites. i don't really feel like getting into the reasons here but it generally follows in the same lines as what jibber mentions. it's not because of the loss of revenue for large scale furriers who think the 'glamour' of the 70s is still en vogue today or social guilt due to a cultural rape.

savannah · 05-05-2008, 05:52 AM

i actually have two fur coats, both are lovely, and inherited,......
i've had them refurbished, and re cut to fit just me,......and i love them,......so there

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05-04-2008, 01:48 PM
tkpb938 Lvl 70 Troll Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunny Phoenix Posts: 451	I really could care less about an industry that makes its profit from selling off the death of animals to rich snobs... After all fur coats are generally considered an "elite" clothing item. The trapping industry should die, native american tradition or not...

05-04-2008, 02:28 PM
bsmix Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 180	is this a joke?? "help an Indian, kill a beaver!" Fashion changes, we don't need skins to keep us warm anymore. It's not the 1600's. __________________ a music nazi....is still a nazi

05-04-2008, 03:04 PM
arob Groupie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 6	Mr. Dave? Wow you are open minded huh? am I an idiot just because you said so??.. I mean your argument is so convincing. All those intelligent points you made. I can see now why you are so superior.

05-04-2008, 03:58 PM
sleepy jack just made poverty history Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,612	There's nothing superior about what he did. He just took two moronic quotes from you and emphasized them all this proves is your own inferiority. Anyway I'm completely against fur and I don't think I need to explain why because it's obvious you wouldn't understand anyway. __________________ I could go off the deep end, I could kill all my best friends.

05-04-2008, 04:35 PM
matious Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,586	**** you guys racoon hats are coming back

05-04-2008, 05:50 PM
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 1,464	well, i'm going to have to jump of the "you're an idiot bandwagon," but not for the reasons that many others are. I will probably be cruified for saying this, but in many areas of the world, revitalized commercial fur trades are helping stabalize ecosystems after the invasion of non-native species who overwhelm the local environment with no natural predators. In those situations, the fur trade is a viable solution. However, the only animal you mentioned was the beaver, which is hardly an invasive species since it does have a wide range of natural predators in North America. The only reason they are at times believed to be a pest is that urban areas are encroaching on their natural habitat, and their damns at times flood these urban areas. Were you to suggest the revival of the beaver fur trade in Argentina, it may have worked, because following the failure of that same project when beavers were introduced there in the 40's, they are now most certainly an invasive species. So in summary, you have no idea what you're talking about. So unless you find an animal who's fur HAS actually proved to be valuable, and that is legitimately and invasive species that is harming the local ecosystems, kindly take a seat. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

05-04-2008, 08:59 PM
mr dave Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 754	i'm actually for trapping and have argued in favour of the annual seal hunt off the atlantic coast of canada on other sites. i don't really feel like getting into the reasons here but it generally follows in the same lines as what jibber mentions. it's not because of the loss of revenue for large scale furriers who think the 'glamour' of the 70s is still en vogue today or social guilt due to a cultural rape. __________________ i am the universe http://www.myspace.com/wallofpanda

05-05-2008, 05:52 AM
savannah Bad Bad Bumpkin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: texas Posts: 523	i actually have two fur coats, both are lovely, and inherited,...... i've had them refurbished, and re cut to fit just me,......and i love them,......so there __________________ Something's coming in the distance baby I can hear it coming down the line I know you've told me a thousand baby Come on tell me one more time Tell me everything will be all right Tell me I'm sick in the head Something's coming in the distance baby The skies are turning red Yeah, the skies are turning red - mike mcclure