Large Hadron Collider (Europe, member, review, cover, history)

jgd85 · 08-27-2008, 10:11 PM

The $8 billion dollar project headed by CERN underneath part of France and Switzerland. 17 miles around, this is the biggest, and one of the most expensive science projects ever. Will the world be swallowed up in a black hole? Will it turn us into strange matter? Will it detect the Higgs Boson? Will it propell us into the new future of physics? Who knows, DISCUSS!

EDIT - Don't know what the Large Hadron Collider is? This might help YouTube - Large Hadron Rap

JTankers · 08-28-2008, 12:55 AM

If I had to predict, I would speculate that CERN will create micro black holes, they will be stable and they will grow faster than CERN predicts.

A European law suit against CERN was filed Tuesday. Are you aware of the recent history of LHC Safety?

Former Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner discovered flaws with CERN's safety arguments. He believes that the Large Hadron Collider could create dangerous particles that might destroy Earth, so he filed a law suit to require proof of safety. [1]

In response, CERN scientists created a safety report in 2008 that argues no real chance of danger. [2]

After review, German Astrophysicist Dr. Rainer Plaga argues that CERN's new report does not prove safety. Dr. Plaga proposes that CERN follow additional safety procedures to help reduce the danger, including proceeding slowly. [3]

On August 14th, CERN's Dr. Jonathan Ellis stated that there is no real danger and they will not proceed slowly, collisions will begin in a few weeks. [4]

Another German scientist, Professor Dr. Otto E. Rössler theorizes that if micro black holes are created in the Large Hadron Collider, they could grow large enough to destroy Earth in just years or decades. [5]

On August 26, 2008, suit was filed against CERN in the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg alleging the Large Hadron Collider poses grave risks for the safety of the 20 member states of the European Union and their citizens.[6][7]

Dr. Rössler requests that an emergency safety conference be held before collisions begin. He is due to meet Swiss President Pascal Couchepin to discuss safety concerns.

[1] lhcdefense.org/lhc_legal.php]Legal Room | Walter L. Wagner | Citizens Against the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) US Federal Lawsuit Filings - Walter L. Wagner

[2] public.web.cern.ch/public/en/lhc/Safety-en.html The safety of the LHC The safety of the LHC, Web Site - CERN

[3] arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.1415v1.pdf On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders - Rainer Plaga Rebuttal

[4] lhcfacts.org/?p=72 CERN’s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story CERN’s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story - JTankers

[5] wissensnavigator.com/documents/spiritualottoeroessler.pdf A Rational and Moral and Spiritual Dilemma - Otto E. Rōssler Safety Counter Arguments

[6] bigsciencenews.blogspot.com/2008/08/suit-alleges-cern-in-violation-of-human.html The Science of Conundrums: Suit Alleges CERN In Violation of Human Rights - Alan Gilis

15Steps · 08-28-2008, 03:48 AM

it will kill us dead.

lucifer_sam · 08-28-2008, 08:51 PM

I will laugh my ass off if humans foment our demise in this way. It all sounds way too science fictiony to me, anyways. The world was supposed to end in 1999, 2000, 2006, and it's supposed to go in 2009 or 2029. Whatever.

**cardboard adolescent** · 08-28-2008, 08:56 PM

creating a black hole would be the pinnacle of human existence. think about it, we could possibly fuck up our entire galaxy.

dreadnaught · 08-28-2008, 08:58 PM

Sounds like something from the Spiderman 3 plot.

**Piss Me Off** · 09-10-2008, 01:04 PM

Well we're not dead after the test-run, good times!

mr dave · 09-10-2008, 06:22 PM

does anyone else's brain have a freudian mix up with the D and the R in hadron every time you read something about it?

wolverinewolfweiselpigeon · 09-10-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

I will laugh my ass off if humans foment our demise in this way. It all sounds way too science fictiony to me, anyways. The world was supposed to end in 1999, 2000, 2006, and it's supposed to go in 2009 or 2029. Whatever.

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GuitarBizarre · 09-10-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

creating a black hole would be the pinnacle of human existence. think about it, we could possibly fuck up our entire galaxy.

There are thousands of black holes within our galaxy already, possibly millions or more. WE'll **** up the soloar system if it creates a black hole, but nothing else significant on a cosmic scale.

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JTankers Groupie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 0	European law suit filed Tuesday If I had to predict, I would speculate that CERN will create micro black holes, they will be stable and they will grow faster than CERN predicts. A European law suit against CERN was filed Tuesday. Are you aware of the recent history of LHC Safety? Former Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner discovered flaws with CERN's safety arguments. He believes that the Large Hadron Collider could create dangerous particles that might destroy Earth, so he filed a law suit to require proof of safety. [1] In response, CERN scientists created a safety report in 2008 that argues no real chance of danger. [2] After review, German Astrophysicist Dr. Rainer Plaga argues that CERN's new report does not prove safety. Dr. Plaga proposes that CERN follow additional safety procedures to help reduce the danger, including proceeding slowly. [3] On August 14th, CERN's Dr. Jonathan Ellis stated that there is no real danger and they will not proceed slowly, collisions will begin in a few weeks. [4] Another German scientist, Professor Dr. Otto E. Rössler theorizes that if micro black holes are created in the Large Hadron Collider, they could grow large enough to destroy Earth in just years or decades. [5] On August 26, 2008, suit was filed against CERN in the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg alleging the Large Hadron Collider poses grave risks for the safety of the 20 member states of the European Union and their citizens.[6][7] Dr. Rössler requests that an emergency safety conference be held before collisions begin. He is due to meet Swiss President Pascal Couchepin to discuss safety concerns. [1] lhcdefense.org/lhc_legal.php]Legal Room \| Walter L. Wagner \| Citizens Against the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) US Federal Lawsuit Filings - Walter L. Wagner [2] public.web.cern.ch/public/en/lhc/Safety-en.html The safety of the LHC The safety of the LHC, Web Site - CERN [3] arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.1415v1.pdf On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders - Rainer Plaga Rebuttal [4] lhcfacts.org/?p=72 CERN’s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story CERN’s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story - JTankers [5] wissensnavigator.com/documents/spiritualottoeroessler.pdf A Rational and Moral and Spiritual Dilemma - Otto E. Rōssler Safety Counter Arguments [6] bigsciencenews.blogspot.com/2008/08/suit-alleges-cern-in-violation-of-human.html The Science of Conundrums: Suit Alleges CERN In Violation of Human Rights - Alan Gilis

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