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Old 09-17-2008, 08:17 PM  
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Default This I Believe There is\ is not a God

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Tell me\us all why you believe there is or there is no God.

I would request the mods delete any posts that use unwarranted put-downs, name calling asap.

This is a beautiful topic and none of us know the true answer so it'd be foolish not to hear someone out.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:24 PM  
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I would say I am a deist in my most spiritual moments. I like certain ideals of organized religion but it has been used for wrong reasons and spirituality is a more individual thing.

I still go to the Catholic Church in my town with my mom and brother but I do not believe in most of Catholic rules...I go there to feel more spiritual and have a time where I can be at peace and sit and think about whether spirits, god, afterlife, etc. are 'real'.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:41 PM  
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I would say I am a deist in my most spiritual moments. I like certain ideals of organized religion but it has been used for wrong reasons and spirituality is a more individual thing.

I still go to the Catholic Church in my town with my mom and brother but I do not believe in most of Catholic rules...I go there to feel more spiritual and have a time where I can be at peace and sit and think about whether spirits, god, afterlife, etc. are 'real'.
Me in a nutshell.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:44 PM  
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Me in a nutshell.
So do your own.

Just let your feelings pour out.

This is not about you or anyone in a nutshell.

Express yourself...

Please?
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:55 PM  
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I do believe in a creator but feel religion is simply a way for us to understand the impossible to understand.
I always say it is 50/50 as there either is or there isn't.
There is no evidence. You know as far as ghosts and supernatural are concerned there really is nothing.
Photos are all fake. Stories are just anecdotal.
I looked on youtube and there was nothing at all despite all the cameras we have now.
But there is the notion that life seems so complicated and complex how can it be ordered?
but did you know today computers do more tasks then anyone can imagine and it all is planned and ordered the way we want it. yet looking at the complexity would seem impossible.
One interesting thing I read is that lsd under a microscope has light frequencies the same as quantum matter that many believe will uncover other dimensions.
There are other dimensions and time is not a constant.
What this could mean is that God and spirit is not in outer space or inside us but simply in another dimension as yet impossible to access.
But I feel religious stories are just that.
I mean, the longest ever religion on earth was the ancient egyptian religion and now it is just a quiz question and there have been other older religions that believed in a man who was betrayed and killed and rose again before Christ.
I always liked to entertain the idea that God is actually a future being who is manipulating life the way we manipulate science today.
This isn't impossible if we look at how computers are able to carry out trillions of tasks every millisecond in their infancy.
To conclude I feel God is another dimension and time is not a constant.
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Speaking of the Christian god only..

I could never wrap my head around the beginning. Why put a fruit tree down if you don't want Adam or Eve to have it?

He/She/It can see into the future right? So he knew ahead of time that they were gonna disobey him, so it must have been his intention for them to have the fruit and to kick them out?

Why is he punishing people for something they did 3,000 years ago? Let it go!

I guess i just struggle to believe in the idea that god wanted us to have free will. Whats the point in having free will if you just get punished for doing anything that goes against gods will.
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Thank God someone finally made this thread. Now, you fuckers - THIS SHIT STAYS HERE. I don't want to scroll through forty-five pages of self-glorifying tripe everywhere else.

As for myself, my most personal convictions will remain as such but to quote the immortal wisdom of an immoral man:

"Even though I've found God, I still love blow jobs, and I still say fuck." (Dave Mustaine)
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I don't really think it matters whether or not there's a God tbh.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:28 PM  
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So do your own.

Just let your feelings pour out.

This is not about you or anyone in a nutshell.

Express yourself...

Please?
I don't really feel like I need to. The views he states in his post coincides with mine (even down to attending Catholic church with my own mother and brother .)

I can't imagine what my grandmother would've done to me if she had known I was a deist.
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I guess i just struggle to believe in the idea that god wanted us to have free will. Whats the point in having free will if you just get punished for doing anything that goes against gods will.
Well said.
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