A question to vegetarians

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-13-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

scientists have been using animal stem cells to grow muscle independent of an animal for use as meat product.

yuck. this sounds gross. i love me some meat but to eat cells that scientists invented? no way.

i can eat a meat but not a cell. no, never.

The Batlord · 06-13-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

^ Sounds like a Missy Elliot song.

Sounds like a Burzum song.

Burning Down · 06-13-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I've recently heard that (and forgive my complete and utter lack of resources for this information, but it's the idea I wanted to bring up) scientists have been using animal stem cells to grow muscle independent of an animal for use as meat product.

Basically, what's the general feeling about eating grown meat, and is this a foreseeable to combat animal cruelty?

I wonder where those stem cells are coming from. Animal cord blood? Embryos? That could raise a whole other ethical and/or moral debate regarding meat eating.

Guybrush · 06-13-2011, 12:44 PM

At the moment, there's no way to make grown meat economically viable, but I hope it would be in the future and I thought most vegetarians would appreciate it as well as it would effectively be meat without cruelty.

Plus, you could grow panda burgers, lion, snake, sperm whale, you name it

The Batlord · 06-13-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

At the moment, there's no way to make grown meat economically viable, but I hope it would be in the future and I thought most vegetarians would appreciate it as well as it would effectively be meat without cruelty.

Plus, you could grow panda burgers, lion, snake, sperm whale, you name it

Mykonos · 06-13-2011, 01:26 PM

I can't really claim to be an expert on meat eating habits, but I'd see grown meat as the same thing as GM crops. If the people growing it know exactly what they're doing and make sure to grow it to the same standards as normal meat, ensuring that there are no drawbacks or dangers whatsoever, then it's really the same as normal meat. It might also lessen the damage that crops are doing to developing countries if it using other fuel sources.

Paedantic Basterd · 06-13-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

At the moment, there's no way to make grown meat economically viable, but I hope it would be in the future and I thought most vegetarians would appreciate it as well as it would effectively be meat without cruelty.

Plus, you could grow panda burgers, lion, snake, sperm whale, you name it

It weirds me out to think of my meat coming from a tube, but I would overcome that for all of the benefits it would present.

Trauma · 06-13-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

I'm a situationalist vegan/raw foodist, which means that I'm a vegan except when the situation calls for me to eat animal products. For example, if I'm invited to dinner at a person's house and dinner consists of animal products, I will eat them, but not gluttonously. There's no sense getting on a soapbox about my political/environmental/nutritional beliefs and being rude when someone has been so gracious as to make me dinner. There have also been times in my life when my preferred diet has not been possible to strictly maintain, no big deal.

Having said all this, there's no reason for any human in contemporary times to eat animal products other than the fact that one believes that they taste good, they don't have access to non-animal foods, or they cannot afford to have an animal product free diet. Eating healthy is expensive.

Eating animal products does not provide the nutrition that the body needs to thrive (not even bioavailable protein). Factory farming of animals and their byproducts is a waste of space, global resources, and is in itself and act of cruelty. I care far less about the act of killing an animal than I am concerned about the treatment an animal receives while being raised and the conditions that it is exposed to. Finally, eating animal products, with few exceptions is simply bad for the human body. It causes inflamation, constipation, throws the body's PH balance into a very acidic state, and most animal flesh cooked is almost completely devoid of nutritional value, and the act of cooking flesh introduces carcinogenic substances into the body that are not present in it's uncooked state (although, I will admit that I'd take less nutritionally viable and carcinogenic over replete with food-born diseases).

I think furthest down on the list of reasons why I don't eat animal products is the belief that killing animals is wrong, but I do believe that killing/enslaving animals for no reason is wrong. However, If an animal died of natural causes, I would take part in eat it if it were presented to me graciously.

Surprisingly similar to my diet and rationale.
Thank you for sharing.

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-14-2011, 02:33 AM

just for everyone's knowledge, MJ believed that taking out the skin of a fried chicken when eating eat makes it organic. which i believed so, too.

also, when you are a vegetarian but would like to try meat though not in a very glutonous extent, you can try making a burger made out of ground pork with some sliced cabbage along with it. the cabbage overcomes the taste of the meat.

Guybrush · 06-14-2011, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin

just for everyone's knowledge, MJ believed that taking out the skin of a fried chicken when eating eat makes it organic. which i believed so, too.

How is a chicken with it's skin on not organic?

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06-13-2011, 01:26 PM	#326 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	I can't really claim to be an expert on meat eating habits, but I'd see grown meat as the same thing as GM crops. If the people growing it know exactly what they're doing and make sure to grow it to the same standards as normal meat, ensuring that there are no drawbacks or dangers whatsoever, then it's really the same as normal meat. It might also lessen the damage that crops are doing to developing countries if it using other fuel sources.

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~~The Virgin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cebu, Philippines Posts: 677	just for everyone's knowledge, MJ believed that taking out the skin of a fried chicken when eating eat makes it organic. which i believed so, too. also, when you are a vegetarian but would like to try meat though not in a very glutonous extent, you can try making a burger made out of ground pork with some sliced cabbage along with it. the cabbage overcomes the taste of the meat.