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Old 12-28-2009, 05:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It's equivalent to saying that you like to see how a chef makes the dish but you are not really bothered how it tastes at the end of it.

Some of the greatest songs of all time were created in five minutes flat.
Some people like the product others just like the way the product was made. I have to say I'm a part of the people that are more interested in the way the product was made.

I truly cherish trivia and the story behind the song, the movie, the painting or the book. Nothing better than knowing why Clapton wrote Layla, and I guess that's I why I do love that song, or that John Lennon wrote She said, She said after a stoned Peter Fonda kept repeating that he knows how it's like to be dead etc... etc...

And that doesn't exclude my own work. I prefer working on something than finishing it. Cause, for me, finishing something will just mean the end of what I'm doing, and won't give me a certain kind of accomplishment. It's just a taste, just like any other thing in life.
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:30 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Some people like the product others just like the way the product was made. I have to say I'm a part of the people that are more interested in the way the product was made.

I truly cherish trivia and the story behind the song, the movie, the painting or the book. Nothing better than knowing why Clapton wrote Layla, and I guess that's I why I do love that song, or that John Lennon wrote She said, She said after a stoned Peter Fonda kept repeating that he knows how it's like to be dead etc... etc...

And that doesn't exclude my own work. I prefer working on something than finishing it. Cause, for me, finishing something will just mean the end of what I'm doing, and won't give me a certain kind of accomplishment. It's just a taste, just like any other thing in life.
I appreciate the making of fully but if the song was bad at the end of it, then that effect would diminish.

I am digressing but I love making of docs of films on DVD's but if the film was bad then I wouldn't watch the making of in the first place.

The end product is what is presented to me and it has to appeal to me for me to reach back and enjoy it's inception.
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OK, who merged 'The Inane Rant Thread' with this one?
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Weirdly enough I enjoy watching the making of Spielberg's movies more than watching them. I have watched the making of the saga of Indiana Jones 3 times, and didn't even watch all the movies. Same with E.T and Jaws. Well, I did watch E.T, but watching the making of beforehand really made me love it. The making got stuck deeper in my mind anyway.

All I'm saying, there are types of people, that doesn't mean the other type writes a lot tho.
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Weirdly enough I enjoy watching the making of Spielberg's movies more than watching them. I have watched the making of the saga of Indiana Jones 3 times, and didn't even watch all the movies. Same with E.T and Jaws. Well, I did watch E.T, but watching the making of beforehand really made me love it. The making got stuck deeper in my mind anyway.

All I'm saying, there are types of people, that doesn't mean the other type writes a lot tho.
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^ For what purpose exactly?
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Didn't this thread used to be the Musicbanter 2009 Awards - Voting Round thread?
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We're just trying to prove ourselves lol.
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The shortened version if you please. So the road traversed is full of potholes and pit falls that is all that matters? What if there is a portaloo at the top of the mountain? it's still full of crap and a wasted journey. Whilst I agree that background info is interesting and something I like to delve into, if the end product is poop then it doesn't matter how you get there. It's still poop.

It's equivalent to saying that you like to see how a chef makes the dish but you are not really bothered how it tastes at the end of it.

Some of the greatest songs of all time were created in five minutes flat.
Just like with a vote for MusicBanter awards, I find the process more interesting than the result, which does not mean that the result isn't interesting.

The road traversed as well as the final goal (the song) matter to me, but I am more interested in the road traversed. I realize art is subjective and that a portaloo at the top of a mountain may be a stinking cesspool or a marvelous achievement of human sanitation ingenuity depending on a person's perspective. I do not see art as either poop or gold, although I have preferences. For example, I generally dislike jazz.

I am not so interested in "background" information about a song as the actual process by which a person created it. Beyond what triggered the idea/emotion of the song--did she start with a fragment of the lyrics? When did the tune get involved? What instrument was layered in next? Similar to what NumberNineDream said about E.T. and her own work.
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Summary: I am more interested in the process people use to make music than in critiques of the finished product, the music itself. Listening to music for me is rather like looking at a still photograph of a ballet: I much prefer watching the movement that creates the ballet. In this analogy, the movement of the ballet equals the intentions, abandon, and exuberance of the people as they think of and construct new music and especially lyrics.
You don't have to stare at the sun all day to appreciate the magnificence of a fleeting yet beautiful sunset. The photograph of a ballet is art in itself. Photography is a the perfection of the representation of life that was once done by painting. Photgraphy is just a mechanical act of painting where the movement of the paint brush is replaced by the manipulation of light through the lens, the stroke of the brush is replaced by the aperture. A photograph is a reflection of a point in time it is not greater then what it represents, yet limited as it is, it reveals some detail of life that might be overlooked. Even though the ballet is seen as superior to a still photograph of a ballet, and the performance itself more important the practice that goes into it. I think it is just as important to appreciate the practice, the performance, and the documentation of it, as all it goes into a fuller understanding each reenforces the point of veiw of the other. Hilaire Germain Edgar De Gas is famous for his paintings and drawlings and sculptures of ballerinas, he was drawn to ballet and he drew ballerinas and his drawling of ballerinas draws you into his perspective of the ballet. He captures the minute details of the behind the scenes of the ballet, if you seen one of his drawling you could almost imagine hearing one of the ballerina exasperatingly saying "fatigue!" Lynn Swann who who played for the greatest sports team in American history, the Pittsburgh Steelers, took ballet lessons along with tap etc, he said of them "They helped a great deal with body control, balance, a sense of rhythm, and timing." Who knows what would had happen if he didn't take those lessons, maybe Pittsburgh Steelers might of only have four instead of six Superbowl rings. I never been to a ballet except seeing Pyotr Illych Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker Suite and Swan Lake on televison.
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