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Old 02-08-2010, 08:56 PM   #41 (permalink)
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...also just for the irony, I would like to point out your avatar.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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It's natural for males to be more sex-orientated than women. As the female of the species (generally) tends to be less concerned with sex, it is necessary for males to actively seek it. After all, the only logical reason to have sex is to reproduce. If both sexes retained a natural modesty then the human race would be in competition with Pandas in terms of laziness.

However, some of us men HAVE evolved away from our Primal instincts and take more solace in finding a partner that we are compatible with rather than something warm to empty our glowing ballbags into.

But it must be said that for every male prowling the clubs for a quick shag, there is a short skirted female sitting at the bar waiting for desperate **** to buy her a drink. It's all a game. You've just got to find the right players.
It's amazing how many people actually think guys are more interested in sex than girls.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:52 PM   #43 (permalink)
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It's amazing how many people actually think guys are more interested in sex than girls.
They technically are. I mean, it makes sense that one gender has to really want sex while the other, as a means of natural selection, is very picky about which member of the opposite sex they will do it with. If everyone wanted sex, then we would overpopulate and certain negative gene pools would never be weeded out. If no one wanted sex, we would die out. In terms of social taboos, this area is up for debate. As far as the facts go, however, this is just biological fact. You can see this in nature anytime sexual reproduction is involved.

This may hit some guys harder than others...but once you accept your role in the animal kingdom it is easier to overcome just being a man slut.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:58 PM   #44 (permalink)
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You know, I was actually discussing this kind of thing with my sister, who is a firm believer in the ideal of Free Love, a little while ago. And she told me about a book she had read that basically described it as such:

In terms of the evolution of sex, when it was mainly an act of sustaining the populace of the species, the male sex drive was directed more towards the spreading of his seed, whereas the female sex drive was focused more on procuring the most virile and strong essence to ensure the potential survival of the following generation. So the male mindset was of more in the light of procuring a harem, and the female mindset was more in finding the single mate.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:01 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Of course. It makes total sense, too...men can continue pumping their seed into the gene pool one after the other while females spend 9 months with one potential offspring. Of course they would be the ones that would be selective.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:07 PM   #46 (permalink)
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They technically are. I mean, it makes sense that one gender has to really want sex while the other, as a means of natural selection, is very picky about which member of the opposite sex they will do it with. If everyone wanted sex, then we would overpopulate and certain negative gene pools would never be weeded out. If no one wanted sex, we would die out. In terms of social taboos, this area is up for debate. As far as the facts go, however, this is just biological fact. You can see this in nature anytime sexual reproduction is involved.

This may hit some guys harder than others...but once you accept your role in the animal kingdom it is easier to overcome just being a man slut.
Males may actively seek sex more than women, but females want it just as bad.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:10 PM   #47 (permalink)
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You know, I was actually discussing this kind of thing with my sister, who is a firm believer in the ideal of Free Love, a little while ago. And she told me about a book she had read that basically described it as such:

In terms of the evolution of sex, when it was mainly an act of sustaining the populace of the species, the male sex drive was directed more towards the spreading of his seed, whereas the female sex drive was focused more on procuring the most virile and strong essence to ensure the potential survival of the following generation. So the male mindset was of more in the light of procuring a harem, and the female mindset was more in finding the single mate.
Tell your sister to read the books "Sperm Wars" by Robin Baker, "Sex, Time and Power" by Leonard Shlain and "Bonk" by Mary Roach. In fact, that quote sounds like it came from "Sperm Wars" but in the off chance that it's not, it's definitely a book she would enjoy.


As far as the thesis of this topic goes... I can't help but agree, young men usually are driven by their penis, but one must also take into consideration that men reach their sexual peak at around 19-23 so it makes sense that they would like to make the most of it at the time of their sexual maturity. Women don't reach their peak until they're in the late 20's/ early 30's so that same desire comes at a much later date. Regardless, I have to say that it is better that the men you described were honest about their intentions. It is far better than finding out six months down the line when you've invested a large portion of your emotions into a relationship that is essentially a facade to the other party. My advice, look for someone you wouldn't normally date, try to find some shy nerdy boy who would rip out one of their testicles just to share a milkshake with you. Then train them relentlessly in the art of love making to instill them with the confidence that they are more than just an "extra" in life.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:26 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Sadly Pete what you suggest for poor Vanilla is biologically unfeasible.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:34 PM   #49 (permalink)
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or even better, and i'm POSITIVE i'm not the only guy who's had this line of crap thrown at him. 'why don't you open up more? / it's like talking to a wall' which is normally closely followed by 'geez stop whining / grow some balls / i don't want to hear your problems'.

on topic to this discussion the headgames normally follow this route, guy tries to kiss girl 'hey! i'm not just a sex object', ok, guys backs off a bit. then 'what's wrong? don't you like me? don't you think i'm attractive? why aren't you trying to get close to me?'
The first thing I've quoted is something that has frequently blown my mind, that women actually act this way. We females often complain on the woes of womanhood- no respect, objectification etc, but I see that men are also discriminated against if shown any kind of emotion outside of **** YEAH GET THAT PUSSY BRO. I'm guessing this is because from early on the qualities that are supposed to typify the gender are instilled on them early on, boys don't cry,etc etc, what have you. I recall an ex of mine lamenting the fact that he could not "find a girl who wasn't a skank ass" and just cuddle, he also said that "Guys aren't supposed to want to cuddle". The fact that women bitch because a man doesn't open up then think he's not manly for the fact he finally does, just ****ing blows my mind. My first reaction to this is always "Oh ****, he's upset, what can I do to help out" Men also have feelings, along with penises (and wallets lololololololol).


Second thing: I'm glad I never do that, I am horribly socially awkward andcrazy but I love myself enough to not act like those idiots.
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My advice, look for someone you wouldn't normally date, try to find some shy nerdy boy who would rip out one of their testicles just to share a milkshake with you. Then train them relentlessly in the art of love making to instill them with the confidence that they are more than just an "extra" in life.
this. 100%
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