Music & Politics. (punk, concert, bands, songs)

**right-track** · 08-22-2005, 07:35 AM

Do you think musicians should be political, or do you think that they should stick to music and leave the politics to the politicians?

08-22-2005, 07:43 AM

It depends on the motivations I think. For me, Rage Against the Machine being political is good because they are just saying what they think whereas a band such as Greenday (please don't lynch me) trying to be political is bad because they are doing it because it is popular/cool to do. I think that those who generally have very political songs for the right pupose are good and I have no problem with them.

Josephine · 08-22-2005, 08:43 AM

I agree with pastor.
I think there're only two ways: Being political - or not. If a band decides to be political, they shud get involved with it properly.
I hate all those bands pretending to be political cuz it's so "punk" (what means "en vogue" for the moment). It's NOT enough to produce and cry out half-thought out, banal arguments like "We kinda don't like Bush". If you don't have ANY idea, it's quite better to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I forgot... who said that: "We're not the Dixie Chicks. We're not going to say: We kinda don't like Bush!..."

phoenixflames · 08-22-2005, 08:49 AM

I personally don't care for bands getting involved with politics. I hate politics so much as it is, I don't want to have to hear bands talk about it too. It does seem to be quite the popular thing to do now.

All_Nite_Dinah · 08-22-2005, 09:15 AM

Just because a person plays music dosnt mean they cant be active in politics. Its like saying if you eat cherrios your not allowed to play basketball.

08-22-2005, 09:18 AM

^ But I think this thread is about whether you agree with music in politics not whether they should be allowed to or not...

IamAlejo · 08-22-2005, 09:28 AM

I'm mixed. I think that musicians who write music about what they feel is a great thing. But also, most musicians don't pay enough attention in politics to get a valid opinion (i.e. dixie chicks) while others do it to be trendy (green day, etc). I have no problem with having songs about politics though, but when certain musicians go into Norfolk for a concert, and then are talking about how horrid the war is and how stupid Bush is, they should know better than to do it in one of the biggest military areas in the world.

All_Nite_Dinah · 08-22-2005, 09:30 AM

Do I agree with some right wing neo nazi skinhead band preaching white power under the guise of punk, hell no.

Do I agree with someone preaching fairness and equality under the guise of punk rock, of course!

Its all relative to the situation. Some bands will be active politicaly and change things others wil be entirley counterproductive. Its all completly in the eye of the beholder. But overall I say if you have a band you can do whatever you want with it, I may not agree with any of it but like thats going to stop some band anyway.

Trauma · 08-22-2005, 11:48 AM

oojay · 08-22-2005, 11:54 AM

i feel that they should definitely stick to music and leave politics to all the douchebags.(not to say that musicians arent douchebags

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08-22-2005, 07:35 AM
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08-22-2005, 07:43 AM
pastor of muppets Posts: n/a	It depends on the motivations I think. For me, Rage Against the Machine being political is good because they are just saying what they think whereas a band such as Greenday (please don't lynch me) trying to be political is bad because they are doing it because it is popular/cool to do. I think that those who generally have very political songs for the right pupose are good and I have no problem with them.

08-22-2005, 08:43 AM
Josephine Your La-La-La Teacher Join Date: May 2005 Location: The place I come from is full of people with cruel taste of music Posts: 565	I agree with pastor. I think there're only two ways: Being political - or not. If a band decides to be political, they shud get involved with it properly. I hate all those bands pretending to be political cuz it's so "punk" (what means "en vogue" for the moment). It's NOT enough to produce and cry out half-thought out, banal arguments like "We kinda don't like Bush". If you don't have ANY idea, it's quite better to SHUT THE FUCK UP! I forgot... who said that: "We're not the Dixie Chicks. We're not going to say: We kinda don't like Bush!..." __________________ Urban for President... eh... EUROMOD! Vote or die!

08-22-2005, 08:49 AM
phoenixflames Something That You're Not Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cold And All Alone Posts: 480	I personally don't care for bands getting involved with politics. I hate politics so much as it is, I don't want to have to hear bands talk about it too. It does seem to be quite the popular thing to do now. __________________ ----------- I'm the lead singer and bass player for the band The Ascent (And Decline) Of Terrion. Yay for me... We're from Ohio. Yay for us... www.theascentofterrion.com Be our friend on MySpace

08-22-2005, 09:15 AM
All_Nite_Dinah Not Impressed Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 757	Just because a person plays music dosnt mean they cant be active in politics. Its like saying if you eat cherrios your not allowed to play basketball. __________________ If I cant dance I dont want to be part of your revolution. DEATH TO FALSE DUDES!

08-22-2005, 09:18 AM
pastor of muppets Posts: n/a	^ But I think this thread is about whether you agree with music in politics not whether they should be allowed to or not...

08-22-2005, 09:28 AM
IamAlejo Muck Fusic Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 1,213	I'm mixed. I think that musicians who write music about what they feel is a great thing. But also, most musicians don't pay enough attention in politics to get a valid opinion (i.e. dixie chicks) while others do it to be trendy (green day, etc). I have no problem with having songs about politics though, but when certain musicians go into Norfolk for a concert, and then are talking about how horrid the war is and how stupid Bush is, they should know better than to do it in one of the biggest military areas in the world. __________________ a man, a plan, a canal, panama

08-22-2005, 09:30 AM
All_Nite_Dinah Not Impressed Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 757	Do I agree with some right wing neo nazi skinhead band preaching white power under the guise of punk, hell no. Do I agree with someone preaching fairness and equality under the guise of punk rock, of course! Its all relative to the situation. Some bands will be active politicaly and change things others wil be entirley counterproductive. Its all completly in the eye of the beholder. But overall I say if you have a band you can do whatever you want with it, I may not agree with any of it but like thats going to stop some band anyway. __________________ If I cant dance I dont want to be part of your revolution. DEATH TO FALSE DUDES!