True Detective Season 1 Questions and Theories

The Batlord · 12-10-2015, 07:56 PM

I guess I'm a TD S1 crackhead, because I've just started watching episode 1 after about a week after my second time watching the entire thing, and some **** bothers me, as it does many people. Consider this the thread to ask your questions and pose your answers (cause the TV thread is not big enough to contain them all).

For me, the first of many little questions that's been bugging me, is why does Rust keep looking into that tiny mirror in his wall? I've got about a million others, but I'm drunk and I'm not about to go off into a Trollheart-length tirade.

Oh, and as an open-ended thing, whether or not The Yellow King is actually supposed to be a real entity, what do you think it all means? Cause it's obviously more than just some literary device just to be interesting.

And go...

Nameless · 12-10-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

For me, the first of many little questions that's been bugging me, is why does Rust keep looking into that tiny mirror in his wall?

Because he's weird.

And I thought the Yellow King was an actual person. Like, probably the person in charge of the whole weird thing.

Now I have to rewatch it. Really is a great season of TV. 2 wasn't terrible but 1 was better to me.

Chula Vista · 12-10-2015, 11:50 PM

Bat, I have a copy of The Yellow King. PM your address if you want it.

The mirror has to be a metaphor of some sort. Wait till the end of the season to think about it anymore.

The Batlord · 12-11-2015, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nameless

Because he's weird.

And I thought the Yellow King was an actual person. Like, probably the person in charge of the whole weird thing.

Now I have to rewatch it. Really is a great season of TV. 2 wasn't terrible but 1 was better to me.

I've heard people say that the Yellow King is the killer, the killer's dad, the skull statue thing at the altar in Carcosa, and even that it's a real entity.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Bat, I have a copy of The Yellow King. PM your address if you want it.

The mirror has to be a metaphor of some sort. Wait till the end of the season to think about it anymore.

Already stolen it off the internet.

Nameless · 12-12-2015, 03:13 AM

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I've heard people say that the Yellow King is the killer, the killer's dad, the skull statue thing at the altar in Carcosa, and even that it's a real entity.

I don't even know what basis they would have for that. My impression the entire time was basically that the group of people abducting the women and kids were just very... festive, then that became an elaborate story in the mind of the weird inbred meth addicted whatever killer guy. The Yellow King was probably just a central figure. Hell, maybe it wasn't a real person.

We have to kidnap the writers and ask them at gunpoint.

Chula Vista · 12-12-2015, 09:29 AM

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Oh, and as an open-ended thing, whether or not The Yellow King is actually supposed to be a real entity, what do you think it all means? Cause it's obviously more than just some literary device just to be interesting.

Maybe not. These two think it was more style over substance.

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But who is The Yellow King? Does it matter?

Esther: Perhaps the most frustrating element of the finale, and maybe the show in general, was the fact that Pizzolatto laid out an entire mythology having to do with The Yellow King and Carcosa that remains a mystery as we leave the show behind. In one sense, that’s true to life: killers often are brought to justice without the public ever knowing what their motives were. These guys were evil and believed in some evil things. In another sense, it feels like Pizzolatto was jerking us around and showing off just how writerly he could be. I’m sure in the coming days there will be plenty of theories of how it all ties together, but for now I feel a little bit like I’ve been cheated.

David: I was certainly satisfied with what a nightmarish vision Carcosa turned out to be. Major hat tip to this show’s production designer, who did an equally good job on Errol’s dilapidated shack and his stick-filled chamber of horrors. But I agree that Pizzolatto maybe leaned a little too hard on the whole “who knows why men do the evil that they do” angle. There were so many scenes across the season of people freaking out at the sight of the stick sculptures, at the thought of the scar-faced man. Even Ann Dowd’s babbling in this final episode raised more questions we’ll never get answers to. I understand Pizzolatto’s resistance to just dumping a whole bunch of exposition on us at the end. But it was kinda hilarious how Marty literally cut the explanation off from his hospital bed. He doesn’t need to hear the details, and from a character perspective that makes sense, but I would have loved just a couple minutes on why Errol was doing what he was doing, and why his victims/acolytes were so cowed by him.

The Batlord · 12-12-2015, 11:04 AM

Whatever my problems with the finale, not explaining **** wasn't one of them. Whether or not they went too far in keeping things mysterious is up for debate, but all of the fun, obsessive discussions going on all over the internet wouldn't be happening if there was a bow wrapped around the end of the show.

~~prisoner437x3y0~~ · 12-18-2015, 03:17 PM

Show is really carried by purely by machismo dialogue, great performances and great cinematography. It is essentially an HBO version of other cop shows--which i think was the point.

I know I'm gonna be vindicated for being a male and throwing out the misogynist card (I mostly due it for topic of conversation) but it was a little ridiculous. Woody Harrelson getting phone calls form beutiful young women asking him to **** her in the ass, every female character being some type of prostitute or subordinate wife.

Don't honestly care that much--I've watched the season 3 times.

What do you guys think of the second season? It seemed too driven by feedback from the first, alas all the strong female characters. I thought the casting was too beautiful, I don't like beautiful women doing cop stuff (maybe i'm the misogynist) it breaks the reality for me. Rachel McAdams is too damn pretty too be doing this hard drinking dark bruised cop routine, although I get she was raped. Thats why I liked the wire--the female police didn't wear much makeup and were butch.

I'm all about hyper realism to a perhaps excessive extent. The plot was overly convoluted and kind-of childish in its extreme broodiness--wtf was with that lady always singing at the bar?

However, that scene where colin farrell gets drunk, blasts music and essentially breaks everything in his apartment...I've unfortunately been there.

The Batlord · 12-18-2015, 03:24 PM

The whole point of Woody Harrelson's machismo was that it destroyed his life. He was living in a time twenty years removed, in a place probably twenty years removed from even that time, so the fact that the female characters came across as subservient to the men was just natural.

~~prisoner437x3y0~~ · 12-18-2015, 03:29 PM

Huh, I hadn't thought to look at it like that.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Bat, I have a copy of The Yellow King. PM your address if you want it. The mirror has to be a metaphor of some sort. Wait till the end of the season to think about it anymore. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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~~prisoner437x3y0~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 115	Show is really carried by purely by machismo dialogue, great performances and great cinematography. It is essentially an HBO version of other cop shows--which i think was the point. I know I'm gonna be vindicated for being a male and throwing out the misogynist card (I mostly due it for topic of conversation) but it was a little ridiculous. Woody Harrelson getting phone calls form beutiful young women asking him to **** her in the ass, every female character being some type of prostitute or subordinate wife. Don't honestly care that much--I've watched the season 3 times. What do you guys think of the second season? It seemed too driven by feedback from the first, alas all the strong female characters. I thought the casting was too beautiful, I don't like beautiful women doing cop stuff (maybe i'm the misogynist) it breaks the reality for me. Rachel McAdams is too damn pretty too be doing this hard drinking dark bruised cop routine, although I get she was raped. Thats why I liked the wire--the female police didn't wear much makeup and were butch. I'm all about hyper realism to a perhaps excessive extent. The plot was overly convoluted and kind-of childish in its extreme broodiness--wtf was with that lady always singing at the bar? However, that scene where colin farrell gets drunk, blasts music and essentially breaks everything in his apartment...I've unfortunately been there.

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~~prisoner437x3y0~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 115	Huh, I hadn't thought to look at it like that.