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Old 12-06-2017, 02:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Karl Urban for the win. All that's left is:

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Old 12-06-2017, 03:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I was also wondering if she'd be back.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I just made the connection between the megablock from the movie, Peach Trees, and a lower income neighborhood where I live named Peach Tree. It's not really a ghetto, but it's definitely not somewhere I'd be thrilled to walk around after dark. I lol'd.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Alright, might as well put this here I guess since it's a Judge Dredd thread, but I'm reading "America", from the first issues of the Judge Dredd Megazine, and it was sold to me as one of the best Dredd stories, something mature and just plain great. And yet it feels like the most cliched, self-important nonsense that could ever be written about anything, and which should never have come out of Judge ****ing Dredd of all things. Like, as far as I've known, Dredd has always been about satirizing America and encroaching autocracy, and it did so brazenly and without artifice, while having the most ridiculous laugh about it. But this story is pretending like doing the same damn thing and being completely humorless about it is somehow creative and not just annoying.

Am I crazy or is "America" ****ing lame?
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Do they have a pick for JD yet, Brolin would be good I reckon.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Do they have a pick for JD yet, Brolin would be good I reckon.
Karl Urban most likely.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Alright, might as well put this here I guess since it's a Judge Dredd thread, but I'm reading "America", from the first issues of the Judge Dredd Megazine, and it was sold to me as one of the best Dredd stories, something mature and just plain great. And yet it feels like the most cliched, self-important nonsense that could ever be written about anything, and which should never have come out of Judge ****ing Dredd of all things. Like, as far as I've known, Dredd has always been about satirizing America and encroaching autocracy, and it did so brazenly and without artifice, while having the most ridiculous laugh about it. But this story is pretending like doing the same damn thing and being completely humorless about it is somehow creative and not just annoying.

Am I crazy or is "America" ****ing lame?
This isn't a story I've read, but is it not "Amerika" (with a K)? Anyway, no, I don't know it, but I believe there were some later terrible Dredd stories, particularly when 2000AD was going through that "Girls don't get it" stupidity phase (you really should watch that documentary: eye-opening).

Of the ones I've read, that I can remember (been reading Dredd for over a quarter of a century) I'd rate them thus:

The Cursed Earth
Judge Death Lives
The Day the Law Died
The Judge Child
Judge Death
Oz
Apocalypse War
Block Mania
The Dead Man
Robot Wars

I'm sure there are others I've forgotten. Oh, Dredd's time on Luna-1 was great too.
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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No, it's "America". About a girl named America protesting the Judges' control over Mega-City One, and she's got a childhood friend who's in love with her who becomes like a Weird Al comedy singer. It's from 1990 I believe and definitely seems to be around the start of a grittier, grimmer period like all of comics at the time. It's actually pretty highly rated as one of the best Dredd stories.

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Jesus it looks terrible.


One of my favourite Dredd lines (wasn't him, but from the story).
Guy for some reason gets turned into a giant spider.
Judge: "You're under arrest!"
Spider guy: "What for?"
Judge: "What do you mean, what for? For turning into a giant spider!"
Spider guy: "Is that a crime?"
Judge: "You know, you've got me there!"
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Old 12-09-2017, 03:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Jesus it looks terrible.
I'm willing to give it another shot since it did have some cleverness to it (written by John Wagner after all) but the main problem for me was that it tried the same kind of self-aware and in-your-face form of satire that Dredd was famous for, but without any of the absurdist humor that allows for that kind of bat**** crazy creativity that justifies the obviousness of the messages. I mean the main character is an obvious allegory for America and her name is "America", but it's played straight as if that isn't stupid and heavy handed.

But lots of other people suck that story's dick so maybe I'm the problem. The art is still definitely garish though.

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One of my favourite Dredd lines (wasn't him, but from the story).
Guy for some reason gets turned into a giant spider.
Judge: "You're under arrest!"
Spider guy: "What for?"
Judge: "What do you mean, what for? For turning into a giant spider!"
Spider guy: "Is that a crime?"
Judge: "You know, you've got me there!"
Now that's the good stuff.

Edit: BTW maybe this thread should be renamed "The Dredd Thredd".
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