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The Batlord · 11-08-2017, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Don't Bach down, man. It's your list.

You take that Bach!

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's fine, it's your list. Not to take away from what he's done since he really is great, but personally I would have bumped Skip James since you already have Son House and Robert Johnson on the list.

I couldn’t skip James!

Seriously, with Skip James, he has to be on my list because he totally hits the spot. There’s plenty of justification from cultural relevance, too. If my goal was to be well rounded with representations from genres I probably would have left both James and Son House off and included Leadbelly and Bach. But both Son House and Skip James punch me in the ****ing face. The punching me in the ****ing face factor trumps all else.

**Frownland** · 11-08-2017, 10:30 AM

Son House is my GOAT bluesman so he'd be on my list too. Skip James is just a little further down the list for me even though he is singular in his own way with his darker sounding songs.

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

lol ok

can't argue with the list though great tastes

Thanks.

I know it was an awkward comment but I did ask myself if I had a cultural bias favoring men. Sarah Vaughn, Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone... On reflection they didn’t make the cut. Nina Simone definitely passes the punches me in the ****ing face taste, though. But like Bach there’s no one I was willing to deny to make room. You’re probably like, where are The Fall.

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

nah I wouldn't expect The Fall in your top 25 too niche to be on a list with Coltrane and Mozart

I have a lot of artists I like that do a specific thing and they're a goto for that thing but wouldn't definitively make a top 25

It’s top 40 and Mozart didn’t make the cut.

grindy · 11-08-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Thanks.

I know it was an awkward comment but I did ask myself if I had a cultural bias favoring men. Sarah Vaughn, Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone... On reflection they didn’t make the cut. Nina Simone definitely passes the punches me in the ****ing face taste, though. But like Bach there’s no one I was willing to deny to make room. You’re probably like, where are The Fall.

Ikue Mori, Zeena Parkins, Eliane Radigue, Diamanda Galas, Sainkho Namtchylak, Carla Kihlstedt, Joelle Leandre, Dagmar Krause, Tyva Kyzy, Evelyn Glennie, Lotte Anker, Junko, Sidsel Endresen, Josephine Foster, Miya Masaoka, Lindsay Cooper, Sylvie Courvoisier, Mary Halvorson...

Not all top 40 material, but some contenders...

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Ikue Mori, Zeena Parkins, Joelle Leander, Eliane Radigue, Diamanda Galas, Sainkho Namtchylak, Carla Kihlstedt, Joelle Leandre, Dagmar Krause, Tyva Kyzy, Evelyn Glennie, Lotte Anker, Junko, Sidsel Endresen, Josephine Foster, Miya Masaoka, Lindsay Cooper, Sylvie Courvoisier, Mary Halvorson...

Not all top 40 material, but some contenders...

That’s a great list. To add one more: Marilyn Crispell.

Imo, the strongest case could made for Eliane Radigue.

grindy · 11-08-2017, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s a great list. To add one more: Marilyn Crispell.

Imo, the strongest case could made for Eliane Radigue.

**** yeah to both.

Also: Shame on Frown for suggesting to keep Skip James off. He's better than Son House and Robert Johnson and possibly the best overall early bluesman.

**Frownland** · 11-08-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s a great list. To add one more: Marilyn Crispell.

Imo, the strongest case could made for Eliane Radigue.

And Sainkho.

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Originally Posted by grindy

**** yeah to both.

Also: Shame on Frown for suggesting to keep Skip James off. He's better than Son House and Robert Johnson and possibly the best overall early bluesman.

He sure is pretty great, but those two are just gooder. It's only them and Charley Patton above him as far as delta bluesmen go, though.

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 05:41 PM

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Charley Patton

That’s a good one.

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