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View Poll Results: Rate And Discuss The Bedlam in Goliath by The Mars Volta
Excellent 11 31.43%
Very Good 16 45.71%
Average 4 11.43%
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:32 PM  
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What do you guys think of the drumming? This is the first album with Pridgen if I'm not mistaken.
Thomas makes me completely forget about Jon. He is such an amazing drummer. And if anyone needs proof..just listen to the fills in Wax.

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Old 01-30-2008, 03:19 PM  
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Um...good one?
I don't see where I cracked any kind of joke, but thank you.

Nobody cares? Really? Did I miss an MB meeting? When were you elected spokesperson? Maybe we should set up a poll in The Lounge, eh?

I've been discussing things in this thread just as much, if not more than anyone else has. Scroll up; you'll see I've more posts in here than the one you're replying to. And even if that were my only post in here, technically, it was still "discussion". I obviously felt that your comment was so radically imbecilic as to find it humourous/amusing, and thus a disagreement was implied. "Discussion" enough for you?

We get it, by the way. You don't like them. And I think it's safe to say we don't like you. Fack off already.

That Wax Simulacra performance is so awesome. They played it (and a new version of Goliath) on MTV Canada as well, and then took the time to do an interview afterwards. Yes, you read correctly - MTV hosts, asking Omar and Cedric questions. I'm sure you can imagine how it went.

EDIT: Just found it on YouTube. Watch for teh lawls (mainly Omar at 1:58 and Cedric at 3:23).

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Old 01-30-2008, 03:50 PM  
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I don't see where I cracked any kind of joke, but thank you.

Nobody cares? Really? Did I miss an MB meeting? When were you elected spokesperson? Maybe we should set up a poll in The Lounge, eh?

I've been discussing things in this thread just as much, if not more than anyone else has. Scroll up; you'll see I've more posts in here than the one you're replying to. And even if that were my only post in here, technically, it was still "discussion". I obviously felt that your comment was so radically imbecilic as to find it humourous/amusing, and thus a disagreement was implied. "Discussion" enough for you?

We get it, by the way. You don't like them. And I think it's safe to say we don't like you. Fack off already.
It is true that nobody cares about some smarta$s comment you make on the internet. Everything in your manner is simply that of the angry pseudointellectual kid with an axe to grind. Put things in perspective: this is a music forum, for bloody hell's sake. If I make a comment about a band, respond to the comment with something intelligent. I don't care for your "rofl loz that's so imbecilic i cant even respond loz" (which is what it amounts to), and nobody else with half a brain does either. Act like you would in real life. And, the lounge? Hell, I'm not interested in any web popularity contest! I'm here to discuss music! Get it? Not to have idiotic arguments with angry kids. Show some dignity, and respect for the point that you're talking to real human beings.

Onto the Mars Volta: I really find little of interest on this record and find it, frankly, all over the place. I would argue that Frances the Mute is considerably more cohesive and creatively accomplished than this. I still will give it the courtesy of a few more listens, but at the present moment I don't see that my opinion will be shifting any time soon.

Which tracks did people find they liked the most, and the least?
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Act like you would in real life.
I would've laughed at you in real life.

Settled then?
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I would've laughed at you in real life.

Settled then?
Not really...Liar.

But now that you hopefully feel better, can we discuss the Mars Volta?
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Not really...Liar.
Rofl.

Anyway, sure, The Mars Volta...

Favourite tracks: all of them
Least favourite: none of them

Like every other album they've released, Bedlam is virtually perfect. I don't really see how it's less cohesive than anything else they've done. The songs blend together superbly, IMO. One thing I didn't care for on Amputechture was the transitioning. I'm sure Omar had his reasons for it, but I didn't like how the songs just ended and began out of nowhere. Some of the transitions between particular sections weren't too great either. Nice to see they've cleaned that all up with this record.
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i can see how someone could call this garbage but then again the only album i REALLY like of theirs was de-loused... the rest have become background music or i find myself fastforwarding to my favorite parts and opting to not listen to all of the wankery...
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Rating: 7.0 (Average)

It's been a little less than a year and a half since The Mars Volta released the sprawling Amputechture, and many Mars Volta fans still haven't digested that goliath (pun intended) of an album. Unfortunately, the band haven't shaken off the sludge of Amputechture, but they try to combine it with the energy from De-Loused. In some cases it works, in many other cases, it doesn't. When the energy comes in though, it still doesn't have the excitement and tension that their first two full lengths had, and sometimes not even the memorability that Amputechture had.

Opener "Aberinkula" is unlike any of the other album openers, starting immediately rather than the slow buildup and explosion the last three albums (and EP) held. Unfortunately, "Aberinkula"'s formula doesn't work; it's too in your face, and it doesn't help that the tension dies in the verses. It would have been a smart move to place a track like "Tourniquet Man" is the beginning rather than in the middle. "Ileyna" is in the vein of "L'Via L'Viaquez"; it even begins with a quiet section, yet doesn't rock quite as hard, which is again the downfall of the track. "Wax Simulacra" is one of the best songs on Bedlam, and features one of Cedric's best vocal performances. "Goliath" is one of the hookiest songs the Mars Volta have ever performed, and contains some of Omar's best work, along with a near-hardcore punk drum pattern.

"Tourniquet Man" is, while a good song, misplaced. It feels very out of place and would have been (as previously mentioned) better as an introduction, due to it's short length and "build up" quality. "Cavalettes" leads you on to think it will be an exciting track, but after the intro leads into a quite boring song, despite the faster tempo. It's too straight forward, and would have been better if a more exciting drum pattern was used in the verses. "Askepious" is a much more interesting track, but uses incredibly 8-bit sounding brass. "Ouroborous" is the best and most exciting song Bedlam, with a lightning riff and slithering vocals. It's becoming clear that the better Mars Volta songs are often more of the simpler ones (see: De-Loused in the Comatorium). "Soothsayer" is a calmer song, and sounds like a collaboration between De-Loused and Frances the Mute, which works better than De-Loused meets Amputechture. The main guitar hook really makes the song memorable. "Conjugal Burns" is another track that falls victim to bad sequencing. It sounds more like a middle/late album track rather than a closer.

The biggest problem with The Bedlam in Goliath is the track sequencing; a little re-arranging on the part of the band would have greatly improved the album. All in all, in a technical standpoint, the Mars Volta are still one of the most talented bands around. Their songwriting has taken a turn for the worse, they've lost the hooks that kept their longer songs interesting and rely instead on repetitious passages, but they are in top instrumental performance here. Yet, while Omar's guitar was the star on previous expeditions, the real standout here is new drummer Thomas Pridgen, who adds a real backbone to the spacey psychedelia.
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:04 AM  
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Rofl. Wow, that may even top your Michael Bolton comment.

Well...nah, nothing could top that. This one's up there though. Nice job.
Idk if thats true Wayfarer. He has mad QUITE A FEW amazing comments on this forum. I don't think we could say this is his dumbest.
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