Originally Posted by almauro

Let's refocus for a second to what Punk Rock tried to do in the mid 70's...essentially blowup the elitist AOR rock culture which began with Sgt. Pepper. As concept albums became more ambitious and complex, groups became more pompous and out of touch with audiences. Groups were using orchestras, over-dubs, session players, making their music very inaccessible to the up and coming garage bands. So along comes punk, erasing the Classic Rock era, and rewinding music to the late 50's...and era when rock was basic, artists didn't have to record 10 songs for and album and when the vast majority of people bought single 45's, not long playing 33 and a thirds. It was no coincidence that "God Save the Queen", "Pretty Vacant", "Anarchy in the UK", could only be purchased as 45's upon their initial release. Not only did these singles absolutely rock harder than anything since "Live at Leeds", they were also the Pistols attempt to subvert the music industry which pushed "singles" to sell more expensive and more profitable albums. Later the singles were compiled for "Never Mind the Bullocks", and as a result, it sounds like a bunch of singles, not a perfectly selected sequence of tunes, which on the other hand, is exactly the way "Rocket to Russia" plays, making the Ramones much more similar to Classic Rock than the Pistols. This was a profound difference between the two bands...one was a singles bands, the other AOR and AOR ladies and gentlemen, is not punk.

Originally Posted by almauro

Let's refocus for a second to what Punk Rock tried to do in the mid 70's...essentially blowup the elitist AOR rock culture which began with Sgt. Pepper. As concept albums became more ambitious and complex, groups became more pompous and out of touch with audiences. Groups were using orchestras, over-dubs, session players, making their music very inaccessible to the up and coming garage bands. So along comes punk, erasing the Classic Rock era, and rewinding music to the late 50's...and era when rock was basic, artists didn't have to record 10 songs for and album and when the vast majority of people bought single 45's, not long playing 33 and a thirds. It was no coincidence that "God Save the Queen", "Pretty Vacant", "Anarchy in the UK", could only be purchased as 45's upon their initial release. Not only did these singles absolutely rock harder than anything since "Live at Leeds", they were also the Pistols attempt to subvert the music industry which pushed "singles" to sell more expensive and more profitable albums. Later the singles were compiled for "Never Mind the Bullocks", and as a result, it sounds like a bunch of singles, not a perfectly selected sequence of tunes, which on the other hand, is exactly the way "Rocket to Russia" plays, making the Ramones much more similar to Classic Rock than the Pistols. This was a profound difference between the two bands...one was a singles bands, the other AOR and AOR ladies and gentlemen, is not punk.

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But on the other hand you could have looked at the Ramones End Of The Century album which is basically them doing 60s bubblegum pop singles with Phil Spector which totally blows a hole in your arguement.