Television (lyrics, singer, punk, rock, albums)

**cardboard adolescent** · 03-29-2008, 05:26 PM

yeah, good counter argument

i'll present a real argument:
verlaine does the whole introspective thing very well,
but hell was the premier punk poet before punk even existed.

GravitySlips · 03-30-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

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i think hell is much better in terms of lyrics

Hell is a good lyricist, definitely. He's written some books as well I think, I'd like to read those sometime because I do think he's a talented guy. Just not big on the music.

I'm gonna relisten to Blank Generation and focus more on the lyrics, maybe it'll click with me that way.

sweet_nothing · 03-30-2008, 10:56 AM

Tom is a much better lyricist i can only remeber lyrics from 2 hell songs 'blank generation' and 'love comes in spruts' (the neon boy's version it's also one of my favorite songs of all time). Richard Hell is best remember for 1 song and Televesion is best remembered for 1 album. Tom's lyrics stick with me

Malicious Wakizashi · 04-08-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I think it was like Alex or someone from Franz Ferdinand who said something like "I admire Marquee Moon more than I enjoy it." that's basically my thoughts on the album.

I would say its the opposite for me. I admire the album, but I enjoy it more.

Rainard Jalen · 04-08-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Wakizashi

I would say its the opposite for me. I admire the album, but I enjoy it more.

The opposite would be that "you enjoy it more than you admire it". Which would suggest not admiring it an awful not. As the reverse suggests not enjoying it an awful not.

Malicious Wakizashi · 04-08-2008, 05:30 PM

You enjoy it more than you admire it = I admire the album, but I
enjoy it more.

Thats the same thing.

Enjoyment > Admiration

Which does not necessarily mean I don't admire it a lot. You can
enjoy it and admire it a lot at the same time.

But this is completely meaningless, as my point was that I like
listening to the album.

Rainard Jalen · 04-08-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Wakizashi

You enjoy it more than you admire it = I admire the album, but I
enjoy it more.

Thats the same thing.

Enjoyment > Admiration

Which does not necessarily mean I don't admire it a lot. You can
enjoy it and admire it a lot at the same time.

But this is completely meaningless, as my point was that I like
listening to the album.

NO YOU DON'T!

~~nickcavewasawesome~~ · 07-07-2008, 08:32 PM

Television is amazing, but its strange that they got lumped into punk. The guitar work is lightyears beyond what was called punk.

15Steps · 07-08-2008, 04:55 AM

elevation is an incredible song.
the album is in my top 5 of all time.

WaspStar · 07-08-2008, 05:42 AM

I have to be honest here and side with the detractors. When I first heard Marquee Moon, it floored me. I told everyone I knew about it. I played it for everyone who would listen. The thing is...I haven't really felt the urge to play it since then, and whenever I do play it, it doesn't do much for me. I still love the riff to Elevation, but I really can't say that I enjoy listening to the album.

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03-29-2008, 05:26 PM
cardboard adolescent time isn't on my side Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,424	yeah, good counter argument i'll present a real argument: verlaine does the whole introspective thing very well, but hell was the premier punk poet before punk even existed. __________________ Free Music! Free Art! The Ocean Will Have Us All

04-08-2008, 05:30 PM
Malicious Wakizashi Groupie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 41	You enjoy it more than you admire it = I admire the album, but I enjoy it more. Thats the same thing. Enjoyment > Admiration Which does not necessarily mean I don't admire it a lot. You can enjoy it and admire it a lot at the same time. But this is completely meaningless, as my point was that I like listening to the album. __________________ My brain thinks bomb-like.

07-07-2008, 08:32 PM
~~nickcavewasawesome~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 12	Television is amazing, but its strange that they got lumped into punk. The guitar work is lightyears beyond what was called punk.

07-08-2008, 04:55 AM
15Steps The Passenger Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bucketheadland Posts: 332	elevation is an incredible song. the album is in my top 5 of all time. __________________ “A musician's or artist's responsibility is a simple one, and that is, through your music to tell the truth,” - Tom Morello Originally Posted by the_dp View Post I wasn't even putting my comment as a bait initially and yet, you guys pounced on it like I knew you would.

07-08-2008, 05:42 AM
WaspStar Music Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 210	I have to be honest here and side with the detractors. When I first heard Marquee Moon, it floored me. I told everyone I knew about it. I played it for everyone who would listen. The thing is...I haven't really felt the urge to play it since then, and whenever I do play it, it doesn't do much for me. I still love the riff to Elevation, but I really can't say that I enjoy listening to the album. __________________ Vote Nader '08.