Isn't 'Pop-Punk' an oxy moron? (pop, genre, Blink 182, Blink 182)

~~Oomph!~~ · 03-30-2008, 10:30 PM

Aren't 'pop' and 'punk' mutually exclusive opposites?

TheUsed2lguy · 03-30-2008, 10:36 PM

Heh, good point.
I mean wait, do any bands actually classify themselves that way?..........What dumbasses

sleepy jack · 03-30-2008, 10:42 PM

Idealistically yes if you consider pop to be Britney Spears, soundwise no. Punk has always been very pop.

TheUsed2lguy · 03-30-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Idealistically yes if you consider pop to be Britney Spears, soundwise no. Punk has always been very pop.

What? That's ridiculous.
Punk is so anti-pop, especially in its early days.

~~Oomph!~~ · 03-30-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

Heh, good point.
I mean wait, do any bands actually classify themselves that way?..........What dumbasses

Yes, to name a few off the top of my head (And I ****ing hate the genre)

Greenday
Blink 182
Sum 41

**cardboard adolescent** · 03-30-2008, 10:56 PM

of course punk has always been very pop, because it's a very populist music form and therefore embraces a simple pop structure and simple pop chord progressions. aesthetically it was initially opposed to pop music because of its unorthodox use of feedback and aggressiveness, but these things have become much more ingrained into the mainstream over the last few decades. so no, punk and pop are not mutually exclusive.

sleepy jack · 03-30-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

What? That's ridiculous.
Punk is so anti-pop, especially in its early days.

Don't even bother trying to argue with me. I know more about music than you do.

~~Oomph!~~ · 03-30-2008, 11:06 PM

Pop-punk is basically a mixture of extremely watered down punk, and 'edgy' pop. Common themes in pop punk include:

"The cool kids don't like me, WAHH!"
"My girlfriend dumped me, WAHH!"
"I'm not gonna be who you want me to be, WAHH!"

And I can't stand how nearly all of thier singers have irritating nasaly voices, as if they haven't even gone through puberty yet. Though having a deep voice might impeed on thier market appeal to thier primary fan base, 13 year old girls.

sleepy jack · 03-30-2008, 11:10 PM

You're talking about pop-rock, not pop-punk. There isn't anything punk about those kind of bands, not even stylistically.

mosesandtherubberducky · 03-30-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

Pop-punk is basically a mixture of extremely watered down punk, and 'edgy' pop. Common themes in pop punk include:

"The cool kids don't like me, WAHH!"
"My girlfriend dumped me, WAHH!"
"I'm not gonna be who you want me to be, WAHH!"

And I can't stand how nearly all of thier singers have irritating nasaly voices, as if they haven't even gone through puberty yet. Though having a deep voice might impeed on thier market appeal to thier primary fan base, 13 year old girls.

or you could look at pop punk as being Mothermania, Say Anything, The D*ckies, The Ramones, or bleh I forgot my other example.

And I'm pretty sure The D*ckies didn't sing about cool kids or girlfriends. They liked Apes and killer clowns.

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~~Oomph!~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Watertown, NY Posts: 240	Pop-punk is basically a mixture of extremely watered down punk, and 'edgy' pop. Common themes in pop punk include: "The cool kids don't like me, WAHH!" "My girlfriend dumped me, WAHH!" "I'm not gonna be who you want me to be, WAHH!" And I can't stand how nearly all of thier singers have irritating nasaly voices, as if they haven't even gone through puberty yet. Though having a deep voice might impeed on thier market appeal to thier primary fan base, 13 year old girls.