Ramones vs. The Clash (punk, The Ramones, sex pistols, quote, bands)

**sleepy jack** · 04-19-2008, 05:11 PM

The Ramones have definitely produced more albums but I wouldn't say they were more diverse than the Clash, most bands aren't.

zekethefreak · 09-02-2008, 10:59 AM

Wow, I can't believe the responses I am seeing. I was just listening to The Ramones, the other night, with my wife. She kept wanting to skip to songs she recognized. As I explained to her, if you recognize one Ramones song, you recognize MOST Ramones songs. The Clash, on the other hand, were fountains of creativity. Never settling for simple 3 chord songs, they completely expanded their sound, with each album. SANDINISTA was a melting pot of nearly every musical style out there... with the exception of Country, and even then, they may have ventured into some Rockabilly, which has roots in Country.

NO QUESTION, it's The Clash.

Minstrel · 09-02-2008, 12:29 PM

The Sex Pistols are fantastic. The Stooges were punk. The term "proto-punk" gets applied to them (and the Modern Lovers, Patti Smith, MC5, etc) because the term "punk" wasn't in wide use at the time they were making their early music. Big deal. Labels are usually retroactive anyway. Their music absolutely had the sound that would later be called punk...had they made exactly the same music in 1977 or 1978, no one would even consider not calling them punk.

As for the Ramones and the Clash, I rate them about equally. The Ramones are better for adrenaline rush rock, like the Buzzc o c ks. The Clash were more expansive in their sound and more varied. But less pure energy and straight ahead rock. It's very mood-dependant to me.

Sasquatch · 09-02-2008, 12:42 PM

The Clash simply the best band to come out of the punk/new wave movement period.

Twisted Fish · 09-02-2008, 03:31 PM

The Clash by far, never could get into The Ramones.

Mordoth · 09-02-2008, 03:48 PM

They both suck.

Alfred · 09-02-2008, 03:59 PM

I voted Ramones, but I was on a Ramones-binge at the time. I'd have to vote The Clash now. Much more diverse, and they had more passion.

I mean, I bought one of their T-shirts over a Ramones one didn't I?

Mordoth, I have never disagreed with anyone more than I disagree with you.

sweet_nothing · 09-02-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordoth

They both suck.

Funny coming from a Mordoth fan.

ZING!

GravitySlips · 09-02-2008, 05:54 PM

Mordoth hates metal too.

WHAT DOES HE LIKE?????!!!

Alfred · 09-02-2008, 06:20 PM

If he hates The Ramones AND The Clash, he hates life.

View Poll Results: Who was better?
The Ramones	12	29.27%
The Clash	28	68.29%
The Sex Pistols suck (aka, never listened to either)	1	2.44%
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04-19-2008, 05:11 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,572	The Ramones have definitely produced more albums but I wouldn't say they were more diverse than the Clash, most bands aren't. __________________ I'm not blind, I believe in you.

09-02-2008, 10:59 AM
zekethefreak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah USA Posts: 111	Wow, I can't believe the responses I am seeing. I was just listening to The Ramones, the other night, with my wife. She kept wanting to skip to songs she recognized. As I explained to her, if you recognize one Ramones song, you recognize MOST Ramones songs. The Clash, on the other hand, were fountains of creativity. Never settling for simple 3 chord songs, they completely expanded their sound, with each album. SANDINISTA was a melting pot of nearly every musical style out there... with the exception of Country, and even then, they may have ventured into some Rockabilly, which has roots in Country. NO QUESTION, it's The Clash. __________________ http://unclezekesmusicemporium.blogspot.com http://seandahl.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/nomanfan

09-02-2008, 12:29 PM
Minstrel Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 269	The Sex Pistols are fantastic. The Stooges were punk. The term "proto-punk" gets applied to them (and the Modern Lovers, Patti Smith, MC5, etc) because the term "punk" wasn't in wide use at the time they were making their early music. Big deal. Labels are usually retroactive anyway. Their music absolutely had the sound that would later be called punk...had they made exactly the same music in 1977 or 1978, no one would even consider not calling them punk. As for the Ramones and the Clash, I rate them about equally. The Ramones are better for adrenaline rush rock, like the Buzzc o c ks. The Clash were more expansive in their sound and more varied. But less pure energy and straight ahead rock. It's very mood-dependant to me. __________________ "Blow your tuneless trumpet, the choice is yours / We don't want the glamour, the pomp and the drums / The Dublin messiah scattering crumbs"

09-02-2008, 12:42 PM
Sasquatch Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 125	The Clash simply the best band to come out of the punk/new wave movement period.

09-02-2008, 03:31 PM
Twisted Fish Groupie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 11	The Clash by far, never could get into The Ramones.

09-02-2008, 03:48 PM
Mordoth Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: KRIEG Posts: 85	They both suck. __________________ Truth.

09-02-2008, 03:59 PM
Alfred California Über Alfred Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 984	I voted Ramones, but I was on a Ramones-binge at the time. I'd have to vote The Clash now. Much more diverse, and they had more passion. I mean, I bought one of their T-shirts over a Ramones one didn't I? Mordoth, I have never disagreed with anyone more than I disagree with you. __________________ I was young too, I felt just like you, hated authority, hated all my bosses, I thought they were full of shit. Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains. Because there are no story-book romances, no fairy-tale endings. So before you run out and change the world, ask yourself, "What do you really want?"

09-02-2008, 05:54 PM
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 777	Mordoth hates metal too. WHAT DOES HE LIKE?????!!!

09-02-2008, 06:20 PM
Alfred California Über Alfred Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 984	If he hates The Ramones AND The Clash, he hates life. __________________ I was young too, I felt just like you, hated authority, hated all my bosses, I thought they were full of shit. Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains. Because there are no story-book romances, no fairy-tale endings. So before you run out and change the world, ask yourself, "What do you really want?"