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Torben1 02-12-2015 01:39 PM

very confused about genres...
 
Hi. Please help me: :banghead:

naiharvest.bandcamp.com/track/hold-open-my-head

buenosaires.bandcamp.com/track/eskimo

what is this? I really am not sure. Is it actually "post-hardcore"? because it sounds different from AtTheDriveIn. Is it some kind of punk? Indie Punk?

Is it simply "Alternative"? But it sounds very different from Sum41 which are alternative afaik...

what about this: isag.bandcamp.com/track/its-not-instant-like-instant-coffee , its absolutely not screamo because there is no such thing as happy screamo. Is this post-hardcore?

The reason why this is important for me is because i simply want to tag them correctly . :) oh my god its so difficult

Dylstew 02-13-2015 03:46 AM

Post-hardcore is pretty much any type of hardcore punk that doesn't fit the usual sound of hardcore. So It could be anything, but post-hardcore bands usually follow a similar sound. Fugazi, Embrace, At The Drive In, Hüsker Du, etc are post-hardcore.

Post-punk does the same thing for punk rock, only it has an entirely different standard sound.

Alternative Rock can also actually be anything that doesn't fit the usual rock, but a lot of bands in it also happen to have a similar sound of which you can say ''yeah, that's alternative rock''.

Genre tagging will always be difficult. In fact, in my music library which I like to tag as well as possible, I ditched trying to have correct genres altogether. Especially since in my music player you can put in multiple genres. It'd take ages to get it right, and I wouldn't be sure if it was right anyways. On some bands genres can be really obvious, on others it can get a bit subjective.

Isbjørn 02-13-2015 08:50 AM

Remember that all post-hardcore doesn't sound like At the Drive-In, and that Sum 41 is not the epitome of alternative rock. Also, most artists fit into more than one specific subgenre.

The first song you linked to sounds like Midwest Emo to me, while the second one I'd describe as alternative rock/post-hardcore.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-13-2015 08:51 AM

There's no such thing as tagging correctly.

Key 02-13-2015 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1551151)
There's no such thing as tagging correctly.

Especially in the tags of this thread.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-13-2015 08:54 AM

Why do people tag music anyway, is it too complex to find something using the name of the f*cking band?

Key 02-13-2015 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1551157)
Why do people tag music anyway, is it too complex to find something using the name of the f*cking band?

I honestly don't understand it myself. I think some people do it for organization. But in the long run it just makes someone look like a douche when they see "oh yeah, i tagged that correctly".

Isbjørn 02-13-2015 10:42 AM

I don't really see the point of tagging music either. Artist names are sufficient.

Dylstew 02-13-2015 01:18 PM

Are you guys kidding me?
For a digital library tagging is important as **** or else navigating it can get difficult. I have 546 artists and it's constantly growing so I'd like to navigate them easily. I hate it when a song has the name of another song, or the tracklist is all messed up, or the artist shows up twice with half the album on one and the other half on the other, missing songs, songs without names, etc.

These are the tags you'll mostly be using:
Correct Song Name Tag
Correct Artist tag
Correct Album Tag
Correct Track numbers.
If a split EP, correct Album Artist Tag.
Correct Year tag, so that the albums will show up in the right order, and it's just nice to know.
Album Art for the sake of easily finding the album you want.

Genre doesn't have that much use, especially if you have a music player that only supports 1 genre, but I just put it there for the sake of putting it there.

Mondo Bungle 02-13-2015 03:35 PM

I hate having to listen to "Êàéô èëè áîëüøå" by Ãðàæäàíñêàÿ îáîðîíà from the album Íåêðîôèëèÿ, so I at least do that much tagging


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