Rap with credibility (rap, cd, jurassic 5, rapper, career)

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 10-10-2005, 10:19 PM

I've heard on more than one occation that rap lacks the 4 components of songs to be considered music. While I think this an established way to push out something I think they have personal problems with, I do think there are certain rappers that are doing intelligent things with their career and making songs that actually give rap some credibility.

I sort of pisses me off that people with intelligence are pushed aside for people who refry the same story of violence time and again. Anyway, please let this thread be the place where people can learn about rappers who are intellectual, and not given recording contracts so that urban white kids can supress their inferiority complexes.

I would stand behind most of the work Common, Mos Def, and MF Doom create.

I'd discuss them at length but I'd just assume people post up their favorites and we can get some momentum.

murd · 10-11-2005, 12:55 AM

rap sucks, thats all i have to say

2ToneRudeGirl · 10-11-2005, 01:17 AM

well..... whatever they do it sounds fukkin great! especially when yer really high

Gentleman Johnny · 10-11-2005, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murd

rap sucks, thats all i have to say

shut the **** up.

i used to hate it too, like this fool, but ever since i heard Dre's The Chronic and Ice Cube's The Predator, i loved rap. and whoever says that rap lacks the "4 components of songs" is a retard. just listen to NWA's Straight Outta Compton.

**right-track** · 10-11-2005, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I do think there are certain rappers that are doing intelligent things with their career and making songs that actually give rap some credibility.

I sort of pisses me off that people with intelligence are pushed aside for people who refry the same story of violence time and again. Anyway, please let this thread be the place where people can learn about rappers who are intellectual, and not given recording contracts so that urban white kids can supress their inferiority complexes.

The Godfather of Rap, Gil Scott Heron.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/scottherongil.shtml

^For those unaware of this massive talent, here's a taster.^

**Urban Hatemonger** · 10-11-2005, 03:37 PM

I think Dalek , El-p & Jurassic 5 deserve far more exposure than what they have now

Hype8 · 10-11-2005, 05:09 PM

Public Enemy's back at it again, New Whirl Order available at Best Buy and everywhere else the first of November and a couple DVDs and a CD next year. Common Sense is dope as always. Will Smith is always keeping it real. Kanye West is doing good for a so called "mainstream" rapper, he's not that overrated and better than a lot of his competition on radio right now. J5 and a lot of dope artists (Pigeon John, Kel Spencer....) should get more promotion etc because they have talent, but we all know that's not going to happen with the state of hip hop as it is right now. Oh yeah, i think Cozmo D (Newcleus) is working on something new right now, we'll see.

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 10-11-2005, 07:43 PM

Well people who say rap lacks four main components aren't retarted, its just a very "clinical" viewpoint.

I think credibility means someone whos credible, not someone whos hear to talk about lewd sexual acts, money, jewlery, cars, alcohol, and parties. Since most of those are all in the catagory of money, it could be easily argued that must "huge" rappers aren't doing more than singing about money...in every song.

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 10-11-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by murd

rap sucks, thats all i have to say

Why:

did you enter the rap forum?
post in this thread?
join these boards?
feel the need to express this opinion as if it will get us to change our positions?
wake up?
buy a computer?

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10-10-2005, 10:19 PM
TheBig3KilledMyRainDog Maybe I can keep this one Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bostonia Posts: 3,848	Rap with credibility I've heard on more than one occation that rap lacks the 4 components of songs to be considered music. While I think this an established way to push out something I think they have personal problems with, I do think there are certain rappers that are doing intelligent things with their career and making songs that actually give rap some credibility. I sort of pisses me off that people with intelligence are pushed aside for people who refry the same story of violence time and again. Anyway, please let this thread be the place where people can learn about rappers who are intellectual, and not given recording contracts so that urban white kids can supress their inferiority complexes. I would stand behind most of the work Common, Mos Def, and MF Doom create. I'd discuss them at length but I'd just assume people post up their favorites and we can get some momentum. __________________ “The night falls gracefully for those who have a love to call their own. But alas, for those to whom love has turned a blind eye – love, it falls like a guillotine” “No more waiting for fate to befall me, no. I have my dreamboat, and together we will find our destiny, choose our ladder to the sky” - Markus Pierson

10-11-2005, 12:55 AM
murd Groupie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	rap sucks, thats all i have to say __________________ dont eat and drive, you may get fat.

10-11-2005, 01:17 AM
2ToneRudeGirl Speed Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Houston Posts: 45	well..... whatever they do it sounds fukkin great! especially when yer really high __________________ You must be the change you want to see in the world. .+:.:Mahatma Gandhi:.:+.

10-11-2005, 05:09 PM
Hype8 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: california Posts: 173	Public Enemy's back at it again, New Whirl Order available at Best Buy and everywhere else the first of November and a couple DVDs and a CD next year. Common Sense is dope as always. Will Smith is always keeping it real. Kanye West is doing good for a so called "mainstream" rapper, he's not that overrated and better than a lot of his competition on radio right now. J5 and a lot of dope artists (Pigeon John, Kel Spencer....) should get more promotion etc because they have talent, but we all know that's not going to happen with the state of hip hop as it is right now. Oh yeah, i think Cozmo D (Newcleus) is working on something new right now, we'll see.

10-11-2005, 07:43 PM
TheBig3KilledMyRainDog Maybe I can keep this one Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bostonia Posts: 3,848	Well people who say rap lacks four main components aren't retarted, its just a very "clinical" viewpoint. I think credibility means someone whos credible, not someone whos hear to talk about lewd sexual acts, money, jewlery, cars, alcohol, and parties. Since most of those are all in the catagory of money, it could be easily argued that must "huge" rappers aren't doing more than singing about money...in every song. __________________ “The night falls gracefully for those who have a love to call their own. But alas, for those to whom love has turned a blind eye – love, it falls like a guillotine” “No more waiting for fate to befall me, no. I have my dreamboat, and together we will find our destiny, choose our ladder to the sky” - Markus Pierson