Masterpieces Of Hip Hop (OST, funk, rap, albums, Atmosphere)

**Urban Hatemonger** · 09-23-2008, 06:51 PM

I hated that fugees album.

It was like the world first hip hop album for dinner parties.

matious · 09-23-2008, 06:53 PM

What does that even mean?

**jackhammer** · 09-23-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

Thats unfair isn't it?

Look at how the fugees were marketed, and compare them to artists now. Do you really see much of a connection between Akon, R-kelly, T-Pain with the fugees?

Are you going to blame the pioneers of punk as being responsible for blink-182 and avril lavigne?

You make it seem like every album that blends RnB is crap, which is incredibly far from reality.

I see a connection between all those artists and The Fugees TBH. I said they are partly to blame but not all. Ordinary folks all of a sudden thought they knew Hip Hop when they heard this album and the marketing guys found a gap in the market.

It happened in the mid to late 80's with Rock music (Bon Jovi, Europe etc) and again in the mid 90's with bands like Green Day. They pushed these genres to the forefront which in turn bred similar bands. Why did heavier guitar music explode early 2000?

Marketing music is big business and The Fugees album (whether it was good or not) ushered in a new era of Urban music.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 09-23-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

What does that even mean?

What I mean is that album was hugely popular with people who don't really have much interest in hip hop or music at all. Hence the allusion of people playing it in the background of dinner parties to show how hip they are.

Portishead's Dummy album suffered the same fate.

matious · 09-23-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I see a connection between all those artists and The Fugees TBH. I said they are partly to blame but not all. Ordinary folks all of a sudden thought they knew Hip Hop when they heard this album and the marketing guys found a gap in the market.

It happened in the mid to late 80's with Rock music (Bon Jovi, Europe etc) and again in the mid 90's with bands like Green Day. They pushed these genres to the forefront which in turn bred similar bands. Why did heavier guitar music explode early 2000?

Marketing music is big business and The Fugees album (whether it was good or not) ushered in a new era of Urban music.

I disagree. The same ****ty RnB artists of this day just followed the ****ty ones before them, just they saw the opportunity (thanks in large part to locals jimmy jam and terry lewis) to make more money using a hip hop influence.

Boyz 2 men, Dru Hill etc lead to May j Blige and R.Kelly lead to T-Pain etc.

I admit the latest batch of the RnB 'singers' is crap, i just don't like lauren hill getting the blame

Meph1986 · 09-23-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Portishead's Dummy album suffered the same fate.

Well not in the US.

**Piss Me Off** · 09-24-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Sorry Luke but I have to agree with Janszoon on this one. I think this album was one of those crossover albums that melded an RnB asthetic onto a Hip Hop beat and unleashed a whole heap of trash on the world.

It is not solely responsible but this album definitely ushered in a new way of marketing Hip Hop methinks.

Oh yeah definitely, i blame Killing Me Softly, but i enjoy it a lot nonetheless. A lot of the album tracks deserve more credit. Laid-back yes, but the hooks are there.

And it's far too good to be dinner party music

Surell · 09-24-2008, 07:58 PM

I just heard Killing Me Softly the other day too, weird. ONE TIME.

Let's see, masterpiece for non spam issues... I haven't heard the album yet, but if the tracks on dude's Myspace are on his new CD, then 607's new CD should be a ****in smash.

Molecules · 09-27-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Sorry Luke but I have to agree with Janszoon on this one. I think this album was one of those crossover albums that melded an RnB asthetic onto a Hip Hop beat and unleashed a whole heap of trash on the world.

It is not solely responsible but this album definitely ushered in a new way of marketing Hip Hop methinks.

thats difficult to say, the 'r'n'b aesthetic on a hip hop beat' was big way before the fugees; the genres had been fusing since New Jack Swing (Janet Jackson's third album is a corker).
Thusly:

besides i'd sooner listen to something with some soul over this bait 'underground' stuff perpetuated by beardy white guys in hunting caps. But then again you'd probably find the Fugees in any self-respecting student/backpacker hip-hop collection. i mean they're not that great really are they? i'm still undecided on 'the miseducation of lauryn hill' though. Incidentally this is available in all CD megastores in the URBAN section (if it's got black people/lack of guitars/digital production it's urban, fyi)

**Piss Me Off** · 09-27-2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules

Incidentally this is available in all CD megastores in the URBAN section (if it's got black people/lack of guitars/digital production it's urban, fyi)

You have no idea how much this ticks me off.
I haven't heard that Lauryn Hill album, i remember i youtubed some stuff and wasn't overly impressed.

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