Rap = Hip-Hop ? (lyrics, dance, punk, rap, genre)

SATCHMO · 03-26-2005, 10:22 PM

A lot of people make the distinction between rap and hip-hop as being two distinct genres. Some, like me, feel that the term "Rap" is outdated (or a verb) and that hip-hop encompasses the whole 9. What do you think, and if its the former, don't just post "Dr. Dre is rap and Jurassic 5 is Hip-hop" Lay down some criteria.

hookers with machineguns · 03-26-2005, 11:20 PM

honestly I dont know. I always thought of rap to be a part of hip hop. Rap is the vocal/lyrical aspect, while hip hop incorporates all the MC, DJ, and production aspects. I wouldnt say its different genres or anything like that. My two cents.

SATCHMO · 03-26-2005, 11:26 PM

I Agree. I hear people Say things like " I love hip-hop, but rap sucks" or vice-versa, and I'm always curious to know exactly what distinction they're making.

lljr · 03-28-2005, 02:27 PM

I think they blend but its the beat and/or the lyrics that makes the distinction in each song. Does that make sense?

Fenixpunk · 03-28-2005, 02:49 PM

for me:

rap is more focused around the mc and the lyrics
hip-hop is focused around the dj and the beats

if it makes me wanna dance then its hip hop
if it makes me wanna shoot someone then its rap

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-28-2005, 03:01 PM

I`ve always assumed rapping was the name given to the vocals & hip hop was the style of music.

hardcorekidssuck · 03-28-2005, 03:59 PM

I sort of agree with fenixpunk on this one. what I think of as hip-hop is stuff like the beastie boys and rage against the machine--what I think of rap is stuff like tupac, eminem, and 50 cent. so yeah basically I consider hip-hop actual music and rap..... well not something you need talent for, pretty much anyone can do it. Of course you need talent to turn huge like tupac or eminem, as far as rap goes, I'd say those guys are (were in pac's case) talinted in what they do.

Hype8 · 03-28-2005, 04:05 PM

yeah.. hip hop is real music and rap is.. well crap. shooting people and stuff like feinxpunk said. worthless stuff kids dont need to know

Fenixpunk · 04-08-2005, 05:09 PM

i think i may be misunderstood, i prefer the more aggressive rap the majority of the time, clicks like hypnotize minds, dayton family, etc.

three six mafia is my favorite rap group.

as far as rappers having less talent over hip-hop i dont agree with that at all, listen to Tommy Wright III or Lil Wyte, tons of talent there, and if anyone tried to actually rap at one point or another, youll find its not as easy as they make it look. Sure rhymes arent to complicated, but to make it flow and do it with style takes skill.

hookers with machineguns · 04-08-2005, 09:15 PM

I'm a fan of the 3-6- When the Smoke Clears, Choices THe Album, UNtouchables, CHpt 2, those were all good. They got rid of most of the guys with Untouchables, but you still got Crunchy Black, DJ Paul, Juicy J, and Lord Infamous. Man that album is hilarious. i get a kick outta that one. hella thug.

I remember hearing some smoke anthem from Dayton family about smoking Phillies. It was hilarious.

03-26-2005, 10:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Rap = Hip-Hop ? A lot of people make the distinction between rap and hip-hop as being two distinct genres. Some, like me, feel that the term "Rap" is outdated (or a verb) and that hip-hop encompasses the whole 9. What do you think, and if its the former, don't just post "Dr. Dre is rap and Jurassic 5 is Hip-hop" Lay down some criteria.

03-26-2005, 11:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	honestly I dont know. I always thought of rap to be a part of hip hop. Rap is the vocal/lyrical aspect, while hip hop incorporates all the MC, DJ, and production aspects. I wouldnt say its different genres or anything like that. My two cents. __________________ LASTFM

03-28-2005, 02:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fenixpunk The Erroneous Hoodlum Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Side Phoenix Posts: 2,057	for me: rap is more focused around the mc and the lyrics hip-hop is focused around the dj and the beats if it makes me wanna dance then its hip hop if it makes me wanna shoot someone then its rap __________________ This message has been approved by Shawn Erroneous - The Declaimed

03-28-2005, 03:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I`ve always assumed rapping was the name given to the vocals & hip hop was the style of music. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-28-2005, 04:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hype8 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: california Posts: 191	yeah.. hip hop is real music and rap is.. well crap. shooting people and stuff like feinxpunk said. worthless stuff kids dont need to know __________________

03-26-2005, 11:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	I Agree. I hear people Say things like " I love hip-hop, but rap sucks" or vice-versa, and I'm always curious to know exactly what distinction they're making.

03-28-2005, 02:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
lljr Groupie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	I think they blend but its the beat and/or the lyrics that makes the distinction in each song. Does that make sense?

03-28-2005, 03:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
hardcorekidssuck Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 97	I sort of agree with fenixpunk on this one. what I think of as hip-hop is stuff like the beastie boys and rage against the machine--what I think of rap is stuff like tupac, eminem, and 50 cent. so yeah basically I consider hip-hop actual music and rap..... well not something you need talent for, pretty much anyone can do it. Of course you need talent to turn huge like tupac or eminem, as far as rap goes, I'd say those guys are (were in pac's case) talinted in what they do.

04-08-2005, 05:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Fenixpunk The Erroneous Hoodlum Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Side Phoenix Posts: 2,057	i think i may be misunderstood, i prefer the more aggressive rap the majority of the time, clicks like hypnotize minds, dayton family, etc. three six mafia is my favorite rap group. as far as rappers having less talent over hip-hop i dont agree with that at all, listen to Tommy Wright III or Lil Wyte, tons of talent there, and if anyone tried to actually rap at one point or another, youll find its not as easy as they make it look. Sure rhymes arent to complicated, but to make it flow and do it with style takes skill. __________________ This message has been approved by Shawn Erroneous - The Declaimed

04-08-2005, 09:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	I'm a fan of the 3-6- When the Smoke Clears, Choices THe Album, UNtouchables, CHpt 2, those were all good. They got rid of most of the guys with Untouchables, but you still got Crunchy Black, DJ Paul, Juicy J, and Lord Infamous. Man that album is hilarious. i get a kick outta that one. hella thug. I remember hearing some smoke anthem from Dayton family about smoking Phillies. It was hilarious. __________________ LASTFM