The State of Metal In 10 Years? 20 Years? (genre, quote, Guitars)

swim · 10-08-2006, 09:14 PM

Why are they good, because they can play fast? That just means they've built up muscle memory. That doesn't make them good musicians.

**LesPaul43** · 10-08-2006, 09:15 PM

They have the technical ability to play guitar VERY well.

**LesPaul43** · 10-08-2006, 10:22 PM

When did i ever say "They are great songwriters"

Never.

**LesPaul43** · 10-08-2006, 10:58 PM

Yeah, they're both very talented..just not when it comes to writing..They are good guitarists..maybe not writers.

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 10-09-2006, 06:58 AM

Please tell me you used hyperbole to illustrate a point.

swim · 10-09-2006, 08:25 AM

To me when you call someone a good guitarist you are calling them a good musician. And to me being a good musician* there are two parts technical skill and creative writing ability. One all by itself is pure ****. Wanking without coherantcy is pointless and so is good writing with someone messing up every measure.

*not over all just as far as puting out an album. If I were speaking about over all reading and having a good ear would be included but, seeing how you can not hear either of those through a song they arent relevant

CityLightsLikeRain · 10-09-2006, 10:30 AM

Technical ability does not have to involve writing at all. Some people can be really good at what they do but cant write for ****. Thats why there are composers and lyricists and arrangers who cant even play an instrument, but they sure are damn good at what they do.

**boo boo** · 10-09-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Why are they good, because they can play fast? That just means they've built up muscle memory. That doesn't make them good musicians.

You don't know a damn thing about good musicians, let alone heard anything Yngwie has done outside of his G3 crap, likely.

**boo boo** · 10-09-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Magnet

You said that they're good guitarists.

Wow, you're pretty retarded, last time I checked those were two completely different things.

Theres a goddamn difference between good songwriters and good musicians.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Magnet

Anybody can sit there, play scales over and over and build up speed. Songwriting is where real talent shows.

Absolutely not, it takes a lot of time and effort to play what Yngwie does (regardless of how horrible you think it sounds), thinking otherwise clearly shows how little you know about guitar.

I play guitar, it isn't easy sh*t to remember, let alone actually play.

Songwriting isn't all that matters, because I don't give a sh*t how much of a songwriter you are if you're not even good enough to get a decent sound out of the instrument you're playing, and overall your own idea of good songwriting is probably annoying little jingles like the ones Isaac Brock writes, which really requires no real effort unless you're mentally challenged... Being a good guitarist is pretty damn hard to do, Yngwie at least devoted his time to learning how to play the instrument, as opposed to you listening to godawful indie music and judging musicians calling them good or bad like you have the f*cking right, or knowledge for that matter.

swim · 10-09-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

You don't know a damn thing about good musicians, let alone heard anything Yngwie has done outside of his G3 crap, likely.

My post was suppose to provoke an explanation of why either were any good but I haven't got it yet. I've heard enough Yngwie to know he's nothing worth listening to.

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10-08-2006, 09:14 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	Why are they good, because they can play fast? That just means they've built up muscle memory. That doesn't make them good musicians. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

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LesPaul43 Bring da Ruckus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia Posts: 3,988	They have the technical ability to play guitar VERY well. __________________ Life's not a bitch life is a beautiful woman You only call her a bitch because she won't let you get that pussy Maybe she didn't feel y'all shared any similar interests When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold

10-08-2006, 10:22 PM
LesPaul43 Bring da Ruckus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia Posts: 3,988	When did i ever say "They are great songwriters" Never. __________________ Life's not a bitch life is a beautiful woman You only call her a bitch because she won't let you get that pussy Maybe she didn't feel y'all shared any similar interests When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold

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LesPaul43 Bring da Ruckus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia Posts: 3,988	Yeah, they're both very talented..just not when it comes to writing..They are good guitarists..maybe not writers. __________________ Life's not a bitch life is a beautiful woman You only call her a bitch because she won't let you get that pussy Maybe she didn't feel y'all shared any similar interests When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold

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10-09-2006, 08:25 AM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	To me when you call someone a good guitarist you are calling them a good musician. And to me being a good musician* there are two parts technical skill and creative writing ability. One all by itself is pure ***. Wanking without coherantcy is pointless and so is good writing with someone messing up every measure. not over all just as far as puting out an album. If I were speaking about over all reading and having a good ear would be included but, seeing how you can not hear either of those through a song they arent relevant __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

10-09-2006, 10:30 AM
CityLightsLikeRain Sunsetter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 1,060	Technical ability does not have to involve writing at all. Some people can be really good at what they do but cant write for ****. Thats why there are composers and lyricists and arrangers who cant even play an instrument, but they sure are damn good at what they do. __________________ ...I think I ate your chocolate squirrel...