Someone please explain the appeal of RATM? (bass, single, album)

The Unfan · 06-03-2007, 12:51 PM

I seriously don't understand how the single worst band in music history is so loved. Please give me some insight.

**jackhammer** · 06-03-2007, 01:12 PM

Thier simplicity-DRUMS BASS VOICE GUITAR. Their music is so tight, it almost sounds live. Each band member is extremely good at what they do. Their music has always had a socio-political leaning, and this never changed until they split up, despite their massive success. Every album is well produced but still sounds raw. They also made a refreshing change to the endless thrash bands that sounded like each other-a great way to get a big riff fix!

**boo boo** · 06-03-2007, 01:13 PM

I have a better question, what is the appeal of your existance?

beat yr own KID · 06-03-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

I seriously don't understand how the single worst band in music history is so loved. Please give me some insight.

There are worse bands but as to why people like them....I have no clue really. But then again...why do people like most of the popular acts out today?

**Urban Hatemonger** · 06-03-2007, 01:32 PM

It's loud , angsty , has swearing in it and has a guitarist that the muso nerds can worship so in essence they cover all the bases if you're some spotty teenager.

**boo boo** · 06-03-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's loud , angsty , has swearing in it and has a guitarist that the muso nerds can worship so in essence they cover all the bases if you're some spotty teenager.

You must think Morello is some kind of neo classical virtuoso.

"Der his chordless solos on dem Aeduiioslav sungs are tooo teknikal fer me"

How dense can you get?

**jackhammer** · 06-03-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's loud , angsty , has swearing in it and has a guitarist that the muso nerds can worship so in essence they cover all the bases if you're some spotty teenager.

I'm not spotty and not a teenager so that debunks your theory.

The Unfan · 06-03-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Thier simplicity-DRUMS BASS VOICE GUITAR. Their music is so tight, it almost sounds live. Each band member is extremely good at what they do. Their music has always had a socio-political leaning, and this never changed until they split up, despite their massive success. Every album is well produced but still sounds raw. They also made a refreshing change to the endless thrash bands that sounded like each other-a great way to get a big riff fix!

So terrible rap-rock riffing with a guy who noodles with pedals and a guy who screams about ill informed politics all in a nicely produced bundle package ready to sound clean like Limp Bizkit? Sounds like a bad idea.

Besides, those thrash bands were actually good.

**jackhammer** · 06-03-2007, 02:03 PM

^^^
Thrash bands-NILE maybe? what a ****ing joke they are. A comparison with Limp Bizkit is pathetic-you just described them in your post above. I hate GREEN DAY but I really can't be bothered to start a thread on my hatred for them, so if you don't like RATM why bother talking about it?

**boo boo** · 06-03-2007, 02:11 PM

Get off your pretentious "I hate posers" high horse, proggie.

I didn't want to go into detail why I like Rage. I just do.

I understand that you're not one for bands like Rage and Zep. And you prefer more skilled and refined groups like Rush and PT. But Rage do have a massive appeal for people who may not be sastified with rehashed prog (you) or tiresome Kinks ripoff melodies (Urban), aside from not sounding even remotely like Limp Bizkit in anyway, they don't share the same fans with them either. Most RAGE fans are not 12 year old posers who think songs like "Down with the Sickness" and "Bodies" are super hardcore, which is what you seem to think. Rage fans I know range from punk fans to metalheads to proggies and even indie kids. They're just a good band.

People like their sound for a lot of reasons. Morello, Commerford and Delp are all good musicians, Morello has an especially original and appealing guitar style, his style is not very technical, but he has proven himself to be very skilled, he dosen't use any fancy technology to achieve those effects either. Just one crappy f*cking effects pedal is all he uses, and if you think a cheap fuzz box will automatically make you capable of crafting solos like Take the Power Back and Settle for Nothing then you got another thing coming. He designs and develops his own effects and tones, he's quite the soundsmith and overall he's a musician who knows exactly what he wants, I don't care if you hate his music, he's still worthy of some respect.

As for Zack. Well obviously not a great singer in any technical sense of the world, but he has an awesome delivery. He has a very original sounding voice too.

Overall RATM should by no means be put in the same category as Nu Metal bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, even though they do deserve some of the blame for influencing these bands. Overall I think they are the only band ever to truly make the whole Metal/Funk/Rap crossover concept work.

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06-03-2007, 12:51 PM
The Unfan Vote Unfan For Mod '08 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Too dark park Posts: 1,152	Someone please explain the appeal of RATM? I seriously don't understand how the single worst band in music history is so loved. Please give me some insight.

06-03-2007, 01:12 PM
jackhammer and he goes like one too Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 6,890	Thier simplicity-DRUMS BASS VOICE GUITAR. Their music is so tight, it almost sounds live. Each band member is extremely good at what they do. Their music has always had a socio-political leaning, and this never changed until they split up, despite their massive success. Every album is well produced but still sounds raw. They also made a refreshing change to the endless thrash bands that sounded like each other-a great way to get a big riff fix! __________________ My music collection.cough cough enjoy. Ha Ha charade you are. My dvd collection.

06-03-2007, 01:13 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,201	I have a better question, what is the appeal of your existance? __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

06-03-2007, 02:03 PM
jackhammer and he goes like one too Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 6,890	^^^ Thrash bands-NILE maybe? what a ****ing joke they are. A comparison with Limp Bizkit is pathetic-you just described them in your post above. I hate GREEN DAY but I really can't be bothered to start a thread on my hatred for them, so if you don't like RATM why bother talking about it? __________________ My music collection.cough cough enjoy. Ha Ha charade you are. My dvd collection.

06-03-2007, 02:11 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,201	Get off your pretentious "I hate posers" high horse, proggie. I didn't want to go into detail why I like Rage. I just do. I understand that you're not one for bands like Rage and Zep. And you prefer more skilled and refined groups like Rush and PT. But Rage do have a massive appeal for people who may not be sastified with rehashed prog (you) or tiresome Kinks ripoff melodies (Urban), aside from not sounding even remotely like Limp Bizkit in anyway, they don't share the same fans with them either. Most RAGE fans are not 12 year old posers who think songs like "Down with the Sickness" and "Bodies" are super hardcore, which is what you seem to think. Rage fans I know range from punk fans to metalheads to proggies and even indie kids. They're just a good band. People like their sound for a lot of reasons. Morello, Commerford and Delp are all good musicians, Morello has an especially original and appealing guitar style, his style is not very technical, but he has proven himself to be very skilled, he dosen't use any fancy technology to achieve those effects either. Just one crappy fcking effects pedal is all he uses, and if you think a cheap fuzz box will automatically make you capable of crafting solos like Take the Power Back* and Settle for Nothing then you got another thing coming. He designs and develops his own effects and tones, he's quite the soundsmith and overall he's a musician who knows exactly what he wants, I don't care if you hate his music, he's still worthy of some respect. As for Zack. Well obviously not a great singer in any technical sense of the world, but he has an awesome delivery. He has a very original sounding voice too. Overall RATM should by no means be put in the same category as Nu Metal bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, even though they do deserve some of the blame for influencing these bands. Overall I think they are the only band ever to truly make the whole Metal/Funk/Rap crossover concept work. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/ Last edited by boo boo : 06-03-2007 at 02:30 PM.