Better guitarist. Li vs. EVH (instrumental, member, quote, Computer)

lucylamppost · 12-16-2007, 10:17 PM

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hahaha DragonForce cracks me up

**boo boo** · 12-16-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

You can credit Mr. Van Halen with half of the guitar solo's and leads in melodic death metal.

Plus didn't he pretty much invent/make popular the hammer on? I know no one used it like he did before him.

Hammer Ons were around before EVH. Page used them, notably on the Heartbreaker solo.

What EVH revolutionized about guitar playing was his two hand tapping. Which he didn't invent, Steve Hackett of Genesis did it a good while before EVH did, but EVH was the first to use it in a hard rock context, and he was the one who made it popular.

Wayfarer · 12-16-2007, 10:37 PM

Yeh, I always saw EVH as more of a popularizer than an innovator.

**boo boo** · 12-16-2007, 10:40 PM

No he did innovate. He didn't innovate tapping but he innovated tapping in metal guitar. Most metal guitarists today owe something to EVH in one way or another.

Wayfarer · 12-16-2007, 10:41 PM

Pretty sure he wasn't the first hard rock guitarist to do it. Read somewhere that he actually got the idea from seeing Jimmy Page do it at a LZ concert in the early '70s.

**boo boo** · 12-16-2007, 10:42 PM

You need to get your facts straight.

Jimmy Page never tapped, ever. He didn't tap in Heartbreaker. Learn the difference between hammer ons and tapping, they're two completely different techniques. EVH credited Pages hammer ons as an influence on his tapping technique, but its not the same thing.

Wayfarer · 12-16-2007, 10:43 PM

Oh, right. Didn't realize attended every show Led Zeppelin ever played. Sorry about that!

Zero1986 · 12-17-2007, 02:17 AM

How on earth could someone compare the two?? Eddie Van Halen >>>>>>>>>>> Herman Li. Herman Li would not be playing the way he does if it wasnt for Eddie Van Halen.

Wayfarer · 12-17-2007, 02:26 AM

Well that just makes EVH look bad.

**boo boo** · 12-17-2007, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Well that just makes EVH look bad.

Do you like metal? Because if you do, list your favorite metal guitarists, I'm sure more than half of them are influenced by Eddie Van Halen.

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boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,020	No he did innovate. He didn't innovate tapping but he innovated tapping in metal guitar. Most metal guitarists today owe something to EVH in one way or another. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

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boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,020	You need to get your facts straight. Jimmy Page never tapped, ever. He didn't tap in Heartbreaker. Learn the difference between hammer ons and tapping, they're two completely different techniques. EVH credited Pages hammer ons as an influence on his tapping technique, but its not the same thing. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/ Last edited by boo boo : 12-16-2007 at 10:53 PM.

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