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Old 01-10-2008, 07:43 PM  
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I'm still not seeing the correlation between Dimebag dying and the supposed and debatable decline in the quality of metal.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:19 PM  
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2005 Ghost Reveries - Opeth
2006 Inhuman Rampage - Dragonforce
2007 The Dethalbum - Dethklok
Those aren't the only three metal albums that have been released since Dime died, y'know. Besides, the supposed decline since 2005 could be attributed to anything that happened around then in the rock music world.

2004: Mastodon's "Leviathan"
(2005, the first Guitar Hero game is released)
2006: DragonForce's "Inhuman Rampage"
2007: Dethklok's "The Dethalbum"

I guess it's Guitar Hero's fault.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:46 PM  
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You're right. It takes a true icon to open for the Motley Crue reunion tour.

Just kidding. I happen to like Overrated... I mean... Motorhead.
Well how else do you think Motley Crue are going to fill a venue.
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Hahaha I fucking reckon.

Motorhead are awesome.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:41 AM  
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What does it matter what albums are selling the best. We all know that some of the best metal is the metal that is far away from being mainstream, thus, won't sell as many albums.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:22 AM  
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Metal died with puberty for me
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:22 PM  
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The point: If the #1 selling metal album is from fictional, animated characters from Cartoon Network - and they actually have so-called metal fans calling their songs "great" (that's where you came in) - then that leads me to believe that something is seriously WRONG with the genre.

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1980 Ace of Spades - Motorhead
1981 Diary of a Madman - Ozzy Osbourne
1982 Number of the Beast - Iron Maiden
1983 Holy Diver - Dio
1984 Ride the Lightning - Metallica
1985 Bonded By Blood - Exodus
1986 Master of Puppets - Metallica
1987 Among The Living - Anthrax
1988 ...And Justice For All - Metallica
1989 Beneath The Remains - Sepultura
1990 Seasons in the Abyss - Slayer
1991 self-titled - Metallica
1992 Vulgar Display of Power - Pantera
1993 Undertow - Tool
1994 Far Beyond Driven - Pantera
1995 Astro-Creep: 2000 - White Zombie
1996 Aenima - Tool
1997 The More Things Change... - Machine Head
1998 Follow The Leader - Korn
1999 The Gathering - Testament
2000 Clayman - In Flames
2001 Iowa - Slipknot
2002 The Art of Balance - Shadows Fall
2003 The Impossibility Of Reason - Chimaira
2004 Leviathan - Mastodon
Ok, after seeing those two, I'm wasting my time even more than I was before arguing with you.
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Ok, after seeing those two, I'm wasting my time even more than I was before arguing with you.
Yeah, yeah, I know... Korn sucks, Slipknot sucks, cartoons rule.... I didn't say I liked everything on the list (that's why I said "spare me").

The "Black Album" by Metallica was a sell-out piece of ****, in my opinion, as well. Prong made better music with three members than Slipknot does with nine and Korn's non-stop whining is annoying. Yet, Metallica is the original definitive metal band, Slipknot is the "Kiss" of their generation - i.e. your little brother digs the gimmick at first but winds up listening to Reign In Blood in the end (it's newb metal, in other words), Korn... well, all I can say about them is: The Korn/Zombie tour was one of the best ****ing shows I ever saw... But, that was mostly because of Zombie. Also, having lost my little brother to cancer at 15, I always admired the song "Justin" and the story behind it.
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I'm still not seeing the correlation between Dimebag dying and the supposed and debatable decline in the quality of metal.
It's symbolic, I guess.

The decline time frame is coincidental - to be sure - metal was declining before Dime died. It just serves as a backdrop for the bigger point (also made a catchy subject line, I thought).

For instance, ask any baby boomer when psychedelic rock declined and they will probably tell you "when Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison died". Of course, ask any old-school metal fan about that same thing and they will tell you that Black Sabbath transformed psychedelic rock into heavy metal, therefore it never really declined - only evolved (less acid, more tritone, double the bass).

The question is: Is metal going to evolve... or die?

If bands like Unexpect are the next step for metal, my guess is the latter.
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Old 01-12-2008, 03:19 AM  
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Well do something about it. If you're so disappointed with metal of today, then make them eat **** and start a band. Redefine metal, or at very least breathe life into it as it were. PErsonally, I'm satisfied. Sure, I wish all the crappy bands would die, but if you spend all your time going "Eighteen Visions ****ing blows" instead of looking for the good bands, you're just a whiner. Look for the silver lining in the clouds.
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