What was the first song in these genres? (metal, pop)

Automatic Slim · 04-03-2009, 12:26 PM

I thought this might be an interesting topic: What was the first song (not necessarily a complete album) in each of these genres:

1. doom metal
2. power metal
3. thrash metal
4. death metal
5. black metal
6. grunge

7. emo

Since I have less musical knowledge than many others here, I will not attempt to pontificate on the 'first', except to hazard a guess that the first doom song was 'Black Sabbath'.

jackhammer · 04-03-2009, 12:51 PM

The first songs may be a litle too hard to pin down and opinions vary as to specific bands creating sub genres, so i will do albums.

1. You could Say Black Sabbath but as an actual specific genre then maybe Candlemass's debut
2. Hmmm. Iron Maiden are sometimes credited with creating power metal but again I would maybe say Accept of Germany who epotomised a lot of the era. Possibly Manowar too.
3. Metallicas Kill 'em All usually is credited first.
4. Possessed's Seven Churches
5. Venom had an album called 'Black Metal' in '82 but the genre began with Bathory i would say.
6. ??????? Has it's roots way back in bands like Dinosaur Jr but unsure of this one. Possibly Mudhoney.
7. no idea!

SATCHMO · 04-03-2009, 12:57 PM

Neil Young is often credited with being the godfather of grunge, ubt I think that's usually a reference to Crazy Horse and not his mellower solo stuff

Emo, there's a lot of controversy as to what emo grew out of, but i would say the first emo anthem would be Can I Say by Dag Nasty .

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2009, 01:10 PM

Thurston Moore called Helter Skelter the first ever grunge song.

lucifer_sam · 04-03-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Neil Young is often credited with being the godfather of grunge, ubt I think that's usually a reference to Crazy Horse and not his mellower solo stuff

Emo, there's a lot of controversy as to what emo grew out of, but i would say the first emo anthem would be Can I Say by Dag Nasty .

i think How It Feels to Be Something On (by Sunny Day Real Estate) is generally regarded as one of the best early emo records.

Piss Me Off · 04-03-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Thurston Moore called Helter Skelter the first ever grunge song.

I've heard it being called the first metal song...

crash_override · 04-03-2009, 02:45 PM

Well by grunge I assume you mean Seattle Grunge, therefore I would say the title track of this album takes it. This album was recorded and released on Homestead records, prior to Sub-Pop's inception. The band was later one of the first bands on the Sub Pop label. Containing future members of both Mudhoney and Pearl Jam (mother love bone). This band is regarded as the very first Seattle Grunge band. This album and the title track are among the first in the genre.

SATCHMO · 04-03-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i think How It Feels to Be Something On (by Sunny Day Real Estate) is generally regarded as one of the best early emo records.

Yeah, I can see that. They were after dag nasty, 7 seconds, descendents et al. which largely gets attributed to being 1st wave emo, but really wasn't, and they were before the whole slew of nauseating......ugh I don't even wanna' talk about it.

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Originally Posted by crash_override

Well by grunge I assume you mean Seattle Grunge, therefore I would say the title track of this album takes it. This album was recorded and released on Homestead records, prior to Sub-Pop's inception. The band was later one of the first bands on the Sub Pop label. Containing future members of both Mudhoney and Pearl Jam (mother love bone). This band is regarded as the very first Seattle Grunge band. This album and the title track are among the first in the genre.

Give that man a dollar!

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-05-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i think How It Feels to Be Something On (by Sunny Day Real Estate) is generally regarded as one of the best early emo records.

diary, which was released four years prior is credited much more often as being the bands best and is a good example of emo... not the earliest though

Unrelenting · 04-05-2009, 09:00 PM

Emo a lot of people say Fugazi for the first emo band

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Automatic Slim Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 92	What was the first song in these genres? I thought this might be an interesting topic: What was the first song (not necessarily a complete album) in each of these genres: 1. doom metal 2. power metal 3. thrash metal 4. death metal 5. black metal 6. grunge 7. emo Since I have less musical knowledge than many others here, I will not attempt to pontificate on the 'first', except to hazard a guess that the first doom song was 'Black Sabbath'. __________________ "I say I can't but I really mean I won't."

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jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	The first songs may be a litle too hard to pin down and opinions vary as to specific bands creating sub genres, so i will do albums. 1. You could Say Black Sabbath but as an actual specific genre then maybe Candlemass's debut 2. Hmmm. Iron Maiden are sometimes credited with creating power metal but again I would maybe say Accept of Germany who epotomised a lot of the era. Possibly Manowar too. 3. Metallicas Kill 'em All usually is credited first. 4. Possessed's Seven Churches 5. Venom had an album called 'Black Metal' in '82 but the genre began with Bathory i would say. 6. ??????? Has it's roots way back in bands like Dinosaur Jr but unsure of this one. Possibly Mudhoney. 7. no idea! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Thurston Moore called Helter Skelter the first ever grunge song. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Neil Young is often credited with being the godfather of grunge, ubt I think that's usually a reference to Crazy Horse and not his mellower solo stuff Emo, there's a lot of controversy as to what emo grew out of, but i would say the first emo anthem would be Can I Say by Dag Nasty .

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crash_override Seemingly Silenced Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,312	Well by grunge I assume you mean Seattle Grunge, therefore I would say the title track of this album takes it. This album was recorded and released on Homestead records, prior to Sub-Pop's inception. The band was later one of the first bands on the Sub Pop label. Containing future members of both Mudhoney and Pearl Jam (mother love bone). This band is regarded as the very first Seattle Grunge band. This album and the title track are among the first in the genre.

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Unrelenting True to username Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,100	Emo a lot of people say Fugazi for the first emo band