Metalcore/Post Hardcore Question

SpyPirates · 11-16-2009, 08:13 PM

Hey all, I'm just starting to listen to a lot of bands that Wikipedia calls "metalcore" or "post hardcore" bands (stuff like Underoath, From Autumn to Ashes, Enter Shikari).

I've also noticed that a buncha bands that my friend has liked for a while (Bullet for My Valentine, Atreyu, All That Remains) fall under the same category, yet I don't really like these bands all that much.

Can the bands that I said I listened to be segmented from the bands he listens to in some way? Maybe they're more post hardcore than metalcore or something? I wouldnt want to go around saying I listen to metalcore and be completely lost if the person starts talking about BFMV or something.

Alfred · 11-16-2009, 08:23 PM

Wikipedia is probably the worst source in the world for looking up genres.

As for your bands, they all take influence from post-hardcore and metalcore to some extent, but whether they fit under those genres or not depends on how nitpicky and/or elitist you are. I myself tend to view post-hardcore as being an umbrella term for a more artistic take on hardcore punk.

Post-hardcore

Metalcore

SpyPirates · 11-16-2009, 09:56 PM

Thanks, I'll be sure to check those videos out next time I'm not in a library :-p

Any more takes on this question?

sidewinder · 11-16-2009, 10:04 PM

Yeah, basically what Alfred said. The bands you mentioned in your first post are not post-hardcore.

SpyPirates · 11-16-2009, 11:06 PM

I see... its a shame, "post hardcore" is probably one of the most badass names for a genre out there :-p

Lost_At_22 · 11-19-2009, 05:01 PM

Jesus, i wish people would stop putting bands into little niche groups and then telling you not to listen to them because they are not in your likened genre. Just ****ing listen to 'em and make up your own mind irrespective of what genre they are, its all rock music when all said and done.

crash_override · 11-21-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost_At_22

Jesus, i wish people would stop putting bands into little niche groups and then telling you not to listen to them because they are not in your likened genre. Just ****ing listen to 'em and make up your own mind irrespective of what genre they are, its all rock music when all said and done.

True, but it is helpful to find a common link to something that you are listening to so you can research and find bands/groups that might sound similar.

sidewinder · 11-21-2009, 01:37 AM

It's helpful in one way, destructive in another.

11-16-2009, 08:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
SpyPirates Groupie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	Metalcore/Post Hardcore Question Hey all, I'm just starting to listen to a lot of bands that Wikipedia calls "metalcore" or "post hardcore" bands (stuff like Underoath, From Autumn to Ashes, Enter Shikari). I've also noticed that a buncha bands that my friend has liked for a while (Bullet for My Valentine, Atreyu, All That Remains) fall under the same category, yet I don't really like these bands all that much. Can the bands that I said I listened to be segmented from the bands he listens to in some way? Maybe they're more post hardcore than metalcore or something? I wouldnt want to go around saying I listen to metalcore and be completely lost if the person starts talking about BFMV or something.

11-16-2009, 08:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Alfred do it live Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 3,309	Wikipedia is probably the worst source in the world for looking up genres. As for your bands, they all take influence from post-hardcore and metalcore to some extent, but whether they fit under those genres or not depends on how nitpicky and/or elitist you are. I myself tend to view post-hardcore as being an umbrella term for a more artistic take on hardcore punk. Post-hardcore Metalcore __________________ REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN REAL SUFFERING IS NOT KNOWN last.fm/fun stuff/good times

11-16-2009, 10:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
sidewinder Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,985	Yeah, basically what Alfred said. The bands you mentioned in your first post are not post-hardcore. __________________ last.fm \| My collection at RateYourMusic.com

11-19-2009, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lost_At_22 Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London Posts: 76	Jesus, i wish people would stop putting bands into little niche groups and then telling you not to listen to them because they are not in your likened genre. Just ****ing listen to 'em and make up your own mind irrespective of what genre they are, its all rock music when all said and done. __________________ So please don't keep on asking If theres something wrong 'cause you know damn well if I was fine I would've never ever written this song

11-21-2009, 01:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
sidewinder Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,985	It's helpful in one way, destructive in another. __________________ last.fm \| My collection at RateYourMusic.com

11-16-2009, 09:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
SpyPirates Groupie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	Thanks, I'll be sure to check those videos out next time I'm not in a library :-p Any more takes on this question?

11-16-2009, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
SpyPirates Groupie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	I see... its a shame, "post hardcore" is probably one of the most badass names for a genre out there :-p

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