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Old 08-24-2011, 02:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Rob Halford wasn't the only gay member of Judas Priest.
So was the drummer they had in the 80s that they want you to forget ever existed.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Rob Halford wasn't the only gay member of Judas Priest.
So was the drummer they had in the 80s that they want you to forget ever existed.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:34 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Also, the concept of metal being homophobic, even racist and sexist is largely an old concept anyway and fairly outdated. Metal since the 1990s has grown immensely in terms of genres, there is something like 20-30 genres out there depending on how the styles are classified, point here being that it continues to grow creatively and incorporating greater musical diversity all the time, thus in turn attracting a more varied crowd of people. Rob Halford is the perfect example of being both gay and a metal god, I doubt metal lovers ever really debate about the fact that he`s gay.
I really, really have a hard time believing metal has gotten less conservative in the last 20 years or so. Since the 1990s, sure, there are more genres (although 20-30 is waaaay high)..... but since this time period metal has been actively used by extreme right wing groups as a method of spreading propaganda & generating revenue, and they've succeeded quite well.

Consider, how many openly racist metal bands were there before 1990? How many are there now? As an ideology it's so widespread even the mainstream metal press - and I mean magazines you can buy at the grocery store - cover these bands and review their albums.

Yeah, there's Gaahl, Rob Halford, and that tranny in Cretin. There's also Faust (of Emperor, who killed a queer), Nodtveidt (of Dissection, who killed a queer), etc.

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I'm actually asking this thread for personal reasons. I'm a metal fan and musician, and also I have strong homosexual feelings. People can't seem to see how someone who is like me can also be involved with a music genre which has a reputation for being homophobic.
Are you familiar with the term Fetish Skin? Some Queers were attracted the skin "scene", even though it was obviously homophobic - some for reasons overtly sexual, some claiming other reasons (which I find hard to believe). The same thing could occur with metal, especially the more extreme variants, as popular knowledge of the genre increases.
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Old 08-25-2011, 02:07 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I really, really have a hard time believing metal has gotten less conservative in the last 20 years or so. Since the 1990s, sure, there are more genres (although 20-30 is waaaay high)..... but since this time period metal has been actively used by extreme right wing groups as a method of spreading propaganda & generating revenue, and they've succeeded quite well.

Consider, how many openly racist metal bands were there before 1990? How many are there now? As an ideology it's so widespread even the mainstream metal press - and I mean magazines you can buy at the grocery store - cover these bands and review their albums.

Yeah, there's Gaahl, Rob Halford, and that tranny in Cretin. There's also Faust (of Emperor, who killed a queer), Nodtveidt (of Dissection, who killed a queer), etc.
there are PLENTY of music genres which have been hijacked by the far-right, including even pop music and metal. It just seems metal gets more flak for being less mainstream as a whole (some genres are radio and chart friendly, many are not) and so subject to more suspicion and criticism.


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Are you familiar with the term Fetish Skin? Some Queers were attracted the skin "scene", even though it was obviously homophobic - some for reasons overtly sexual, some claiming other reasons (which I find hard to believe). The same thing could occur with metal, especially the more extreme variants, as popular knowledge of the genre increases.
I've heard the term and you could possibly be right.


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I don`t necessarily think of metal as being homophobic or even racist in any real context (talking about modern day) it just happens to exclude a gay or a black following in general, in that a large amount of gay people and even black music followers are not going to identify with metal for either historic or cultural reasons. I`d say if they identified themselves as metal lovers, they probably get more flak from their own social and cultural circles than they ever would from metal followers. Also, the concept of metal being homophobic, even racist and sexist is largely an old concept anyway and fairly outdated. Metal since the 1990s has grown immensely in terms of genres, there is something like 20-30 genres out there depending on how the styles are classified, point here being that it continues to grow creatively and incorporating greater musical diversity all the time, thus in turn attracting a more varied crowd of people. Rob Halford is the perfect example of being both gay and a metal god, I doubt metal lovers ever really debate about the fact that he`s gay.
This is actually a very good point.
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Old 08-25-2011, 04:19 AM   #28 (permalink)
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this band is like a magnet for gays

i know i'm aroused
Hahaha this thread wouldn`t be complete without that album cover.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:50 AM   #30 (permalink)
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