Foo Fighters (cds, album, Nirvana, quote, band)

**sleepy jack** · 04-05-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

When you say every band and there mothers can make, i think hmmm, why arnt they then? Simple many bands can physically recreate or play other bands music, but not come up with the ideas for catchy pop songs like Dave Grohl does.

You judge his work completely wrong. he is not in it to make a deep, meaningful album like many artists you enjoy. <-(take Elliot Smith for example) He simply has fun making the catchy fun pop songs and enjoys playing them, and having many people listen to them.

And before responding to that saying but its mindless radio power chord rock, i don't see to many others making as catchy, as fun songs as him. There is a reason he is on top right now.

his music is not my favorite, but i also do not believe it has to be meaningful, completely different and inventive to be good either. he is simply very good at making (as iv said multiple times now) catchy fun pop songs.

Another band i would put in the same place as him would be The Offspring, they are by no means skillful and inventive musicians, but have the same goal as grohl. Making there music almost a joke, so that people listening and the band themselves will have fun with it.

It's not that hard to write a catchy pop song, just turn on the radio its full of them. I wouldn't really consider the Foo Fighters fun and catchy because when I think fun and catchy I think of something like the All Girl Summer Fun Band or Best Friends Forever, something that's actually fun and catchy. Maybe his music videos are fun but I think fun generally implies there's something, well really fun about the music itself. Like a bouncy or joyous quality to it like the Beach Boys or Ramones. Catchy I suppose they have the right hooks and choruses but to me catchy is always something slightly twinkly and poppy. I think the Foo Fighters are too rooted in modern rock for that. I'd more say Grohl and co. aim to make radio rock anthems then fun and catchy songs.

I don't see how his music is different from any other modern rock artists that have come and gone. Maybe there's something I'm missing but every time I hear a Foo Fighters song I don't get "Wow this is unique" I'm surprised anyone would make that claim to be honest. In fact I don't get how you say music doesn't have to be different or inventive to be good than say there's no artists doing something like them...maybe you should get your own opinions straight before trying to argue against others?

Frankly I think your argument kind shows how much substance the Foo Fighters lack. I mean for a band that cites Husker Du, Big Star, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Meat Puppets, The Stooges and the Beatles as influences its pretty sad when your argument to defend them is the same one I use to explain why I like Kate Nash or Rihanna.

I'm also getting sick of people bringing up Elliott Smith everytime they argue with me, I listen to a wide variety of artists from Mogwai to The Rapture to Daniel Johnston to Big Black to Primal Scream to Man Man to Robyn. I mean fuck I'm a McLusky fan do you think music being intimate and "meaningful" is all I look for? No it's not.

RezZ · 04-05-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

It's not that hard to write a catchy pop song, just turn on the radio its full of them. I wouldn't really consider the Foo Fighters fun and catchy because when I think fun and catchy I think of something like the All Girl Summer Fun Band or Best Friends Forever, something that's actually fun and catchy. Maybe his music videos are fun but I think fun generally implies there's something, well really fun about the music itself. Like a bouncy or joyous quality to it like the Beach Boys or Ramones. Catchy I suppose they have the right hooks and choruses but to me catchy is always something slightly twinkly and poppy. I think the Foo Fighters are too rooted in modern rock for that. I'd more say Grohl and co. aim to make radio rock anthems then fun and catchy songs.

I don't see how his music is different from any other modern rock artists that have come and gone. Maybe there's something I'm missing but every time I hear a Foo Fighters song I don't get "Wow this is unique" I'm surprised anyone would make that claim to be honest. In fact I don't get how you say music doesn't have to be different or inventive to be good than say there's no artists doing something like them...maybe you should get your own opinions straight before trying to argue against others?

To the first part: That is where i disagree, in thinking that yes, it is hard to wright that "catchy of a pop song". There are many on the radio, rather TONS on the radio, but i feel only a very small amount of those are actually catchy and clever, with the Foo Fighters music being one of the few.

To the second part: In no way am i contradicting myself and mixing up my own opinions. My favorite music is yes, inventive, new, and inspiring. But music that is not that is not necessarily bad, or out of my taste. In fact more bands i listen to are not that inventive music changing breed because of the simple fact that there are far more bands out there that do not bring anything new to the table.

>And do not question my opinions because they have remained steady throughout every thread on this forum.

nonsubmissivewife · 04-05-2008, 11:00 AM

I don't understand why something being "popular" is bad? Anywho, people like what they like, it's all a matter of opinion and I don't feel like anyone should be able to argue with an opinion. Crowquill thinks it's bad, RezZ thinks they're alright, and I think they're good. So be it. None of us are saying they are the best band ever, so who cares?

RezZ · 04-05-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife

I don't understand why something being "popular" is bad? Anywho, people like what they like, it's all a matter of opinion and I don't feel like anyone should be able to argue with an opinion. Crowquill thinks it's bad, RezZ thinks they're alright, and I think they're good. So be it. None of us are saying they are the best band ever, so who cares?

You are correct, but what we are arguing about is the point he made that anyone could make this simple radio rock. Which i completely disagree with.

**boo boo** · 04-05-2008, 12:51 PM

Ethan. Please stop.

**sleepy jack** · 04-05-2008, 01:05 PM

I'm allowed to discuss music. Why don't you fuck off and try it for once? I don't think RezZ has a problem discussing this with me.

**sleepy jack** · 04-05-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

To the first part: That is where i disagree, in thinking that yes, it is hard to wright that "catchy of a pop song". There are many on the radio, rather TONS on the radio, but i feel only a very small amount of those are actually catchy and clever, with the Foo Fighters music being one of the few.

See I don't really think of the Foo Fighters music as catchy. When I think catchy I tend to think off stuff like Back in Your Head by Tegan and Sara that has a more poppy bouncy element with a kind of shout along feel to it that very easily gets stuck in your head. I tend to place the Foo Fighers in more of a category where they aim to write the big rock anthems which can be catchy but I think it's too big? to be catchy. I can't really explain it anyway that's irrelevant digressing. I think there are bands on the mainstream doing it finer than them. No Cars Go by the Arcade Fire is a good example of this as well Dashboard by Modest Mouse. I don't think what they do has any real value to it or that they even do it better than their current contemporaries.

**boo boo** · 04-05-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I'm allowed to discuss music. Why don't you fuck off and try it for once? I don't think RezZ has a problem discussing this with me.

I love discussing music.

But too many people here discuss what they hate and not what they like.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 04-05-2008, 01:24 PM

I don't have a problem with the Foo Fighters wanting to write radio friendly rock songs. What my problem with them is thats ALL they do.
A band will only release maybe 3 or 4 songs on an album for radio play as singles. This leaves at least another 8 or 9 songs on the album that an artist can do more or less anything they choose to with.What do the Foo Fighters do with these songs? They just use it for bland filler tracks that are just as formulaic as the stuff they put out on the radio.
In my opinion and also several other people's opinion that I know of who have followed Grohl's career over the years & who actually think he is talented and have a lot of time for him think that this is a huge waste of his obvious talent.

**sleepy jack** · 04-05-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I love discussing music.

Really? Cause from what I've seen you just love bitching when people don't praise your favorite bands.

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04-05-2008, 11:00 AM
nonsubmissivewife Call me Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 399	I don't understand why something being "popular" is bad? Anywho, people like what they like, it's all a matter of opinion and I don't feel like anyone should be able to argue with an opinion. Crowquill thinks it's bad, RezZ thinks they're alright, and I think they're good. So be it. None of us are saying they are the best band ever, so who cares? __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/nonsubmssvewife/

04-05-2008, 12:51 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,000	Ethan. Please stop. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

04-05-2008, 01:05 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,328	I'm allowed to discuss music. Why don't you fuck off and try it for once? I don't think RezZ has a problem discussing this with me. __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.

04-05-2008, 01:24 PM
Urban Hatemonger GET TO FALKIRK Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: STONYBRIDGE Posts: 9,647	I don't have a problem with the Foo Fighters wanting to write radio friendly rock songs. What my problem with them is thats ALL they do. A band will only release maybe 3 or 4 songs on an album for radio play as singles. This leaves at least another 8 or 9 songs on the album that an artist can do more or less anything they choose to with.What do the Foo Fighters do with these songs? They just use it for bland filler tracks that are just as formulaic as the stuff they put out on the radio. In my opinion and also several other people's opinion that I know of who have followed Grohl's career over the years & who actually think he is talented and have a lot of time for him think that this is a huge waste of his obvious talent. __________________