Is the pop punk culture slowly dieing out

TeamYorkshireMetal · 02-16-2016, 11:31 PM

i question this as i read my friends article she posted as a writer who goes to these gigs and reviews them for a website, wondering what other peoples thoughts are to get a bigger idea

Black Francis · 02-17-2016, 12:34 AM

I would say no, maybe the local punk scene in your friends hometown is dying but over here and in other parts of the world it is thriving. I think punk is like metal, their culture will never fully die out cause it's relatable to newer generations not just the old ones. you got bands that stick to the post punk formula or bands that infuse it with ska or pop and many of these bands are out there keeping their punk scene alive cause punk is way more than just a passing fad it's more like a generational phase.

Even if most punks eventually grow out of that phase they'll be replaced by a new generation of punks who will surely call them sellouts and this cycle will continue on and on while punk and its standards keep mutating losing and gaining new audiences but never fully dying out. i mean, i could argue that folk culture is dead cause locally i don't see a folk music scene but i can guarantee you i can go online and find a folk artist playing to a full stadium.

TeamYorkshireMetal · 02-17-2016, 03:00 AM

Yeah completely agree! But more specific into my point, say kerrang on mtv before the internet become massive, those tv channels had alot more attention and viewers and those type of bands populated it making it into the mainstream a lot more and now with the internet and youtube its a lot more choice orientated my view is that the majority of the fans and now are kinda isolated, the music channels only play songs that are just the ones that have most views and are more youtube popular due to mockery or paid through advertising.

this idea only came along after hearing someone saying those bands and using the word hayday in the same sentence

waterbearflying · 03-08-2016, 05:07 PM

I mean, a lot of people I know in real life listen to pop punk, so bands like Fall Out Boy and such aren't going anywhere.

But to be honest, I think scenes in general are kind of dead. Yeah, I know it's a cliche, but I live in a large and diverse city, so I should be seeing punks and goths every time I walk outside. But it's actually pretty rare--no, extremely rare. A google search tells me that clubs and festivals are out there, but there are always and will always be a few hardcore enthusiasts.

I listen to a lot of postpunk, probably more than I do actual punk, so I'm no elitist, but I've noticed that, in comparison to genres like emo or goth, where except for some nerds no one has any idea what really it is, the average person just doesn't care about punk anymore. It's moment of fame and relevance came and went.

I think that the new trend we'll be seeing is a slow death of subcultures, in the sense of something rebellious youngsters join. I'm very much an outsider to this whole thing (remember what I said about not seeing any punks around?) but it seems like punk enthusiasts aren't dressing up and showing their subculture stripes, just quietly listening to the music. With the internet, you can listen to anything you want to with ease, so people are having more diverse tastes.

The scene will never truly die, but people aren't wearing massive amounts of safety pins anymore.

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TeamYorkshireMetal Groupie Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 2	Is the pop punk culture slowly dieing out i question this as i read my friends article she posted as a writer who goes to these gigs and reviews them for a website, wondering what other peoples thoughts are to get a bigger idea

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	I would say no, maybe the local punk scene in your friends hometown is dying but over here and in other parts of the world it is thriving. I think punk is like metal, their culture will never fully die out cause it's relatable to newer generations not just the old ones. you got bands that stick to the post punk formula or bands that infuse it with ska or pop and many of these bands are out there keeping their punk scene alive cause punk is way more than just a passing fad it's more like a generational phase. Even if most punks eventually grow out of that phase they'll be replaced by a new generation of punks who will surely call them sellouts and this cycle will continue on and on while punk and its standards keep mutating losing and gaining new audiences but never fully dying out. i mean, i could argue that folk culture is dead cause locally i don't see a folk music scene but i can guarantee you i can go online and find a folk artist playing to a full stadium. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

02-17-2016, 03:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
TeamYorkshireMetal Groupie Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 2	Yeah completely agree! But more specific into my point, say kerrang on mtv before the internet become massive, those tv channels had alot more attention and viewers and those type of bands populated it making it into the mainstream a lot more and now with the internet and youtube its a lot more choice orientated my view is that the majority of the fans and now are kinda isolated, the music channels only play songs that are just the ones that have most views and are more youtube popular due to mockery or paid through advertising. this idea only came along after hearing someone saying those bands and using the word hayday in the same sentence

03-08-2016, 05:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
waterbearflying Groupie Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 6	I mean, a lot of people I know in real life listen to pop punk, so bands like Fall Out Boy and such aren't going anywhere. But to be honest, I think scenes in general are kind of dead. Yeah, I know it's a cliche, but I live in a large and diverse city, so I should be seeing punks and goths every time I walk outside. But it's actually pretty rare--no, extremely rare. A google search tells me that clubs and festivals are out there, but there are always and will always be a few hardcore enthusiasts. I listen to a lot of postpunk, probably more than I do actual punk, so I'm no elitist, but I've noticed that, in comparison to genres like emo or goth, where except for some nerds no one has any idea what really it is, the average person just doesn't care about punk anymore. It's moment of fame and relevance came and went. I think that the new trend we'll be seeing is a slow death of subcultures, in the sense of something rebellious youngsters join. I'm very much an outsider to this whole thing (remember what I said about not seeing any punks around?) but it seems like punk enthusiasts aren't dressing up and showing their subculture stripes, just quietly listening to the music. With the internet, you can listen to anything you want to with ease, so people are having more diverse tastes. The scene will never truly die, but people aren't wearing massive amounts of safety pins anymore.