The Language Of Rock & Metal. Help! (dance, indie, punk)

Merkaba · 08-05-2005, 07:04 PM

Hey everyone. Im doing a research topic at university for english and I need your help. I need help answering these questions:

1. Has the language of rock and metal changed over the last forty years? i.e post-1965.Things i'm looking for can be changes in meaning (For example, does rock have a different meaning now than what it has meant in the past?). Changes in the way society looks at Rock and Metal music (For example there is now such things as christian rock, who would have thought you could associate the two together?? lol)

2. What words and terms are associated with the world of Rock and Metal? Now this is quite general so just list anything that comes to your mind. But more importantly is what kind of images do they portray or represent (For example, Tommy Lee and his body of tattoos, represents rebellion and all that kind of stuff.

Any help would be welcome and feel free to debate with others as it makes my research range wider without having to work for it

P.S links to websites are appreciated.

PhishFood · 08-05-2005, 09:31 PM

you could probly write a five paragraph essay on the hand gestures of rock and metal through out the years... peace sign, "devil horns"

SaTaNsChIlD666 · 08-06-2005, 11:37 AM

the metal music today is looked at the same way as it was is the 80's...people in society still just cant except it...just becasue its so out there and crazy....although it is becoming more and more popular

Stu · 08-06-2005, 11:56 AM

in my opinion- well theres a lot less emphasis on the traditional and locational forms of rock nowadays as oppose to say the 60s (bluegrass, southern rock, rockabilly, folk rock etc) and now everybody is trying to find new terms to describe new sub-movements of the recent indie phase- noise-rock, art-rock, post-rock etc. indie itself is now a mainstream antithesis of what it originally stood for- independance FROM the mainstream while punk has just branched out into all kinds of sub-genres, any band with an attitude could be tagged with the punk monica now. errrr, now its all about the guitar led pop-bands chart wise and a big electro influence is prevalent within the rock industry.

metal wise- well what do you want a list of all the sub-genres? just type into google.

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 08-06-2005, 01:35 PM

I wrote a big opinion and just didn't feel like defending this fight later.

Look up the history of:
Elvis
Little Richard
Zeppelin*
Prince
Rap's influence on rock in the 90's
The New indie dance movement

*use them to focus on the thinly veiled references to sex such as the lemon juice running down his leg.

Merkaba · 08-07-2005, 04:44 PM

Cheers guys, i had bin doing a bit of hunting around before hand and then i thought the forums are bound to have people with heaps of memories from earlier times of rock and metal history so i thought why not ask. So thanks a heap

Zygomycota · 08-07-2005, 04:48 PM

Ummmm........Rock & Roll was slang for Sex. That might help for word meanings.

gratesaga · 08-26-2005, 04:06 AM

peolpe from past generations think the new generations is to wild and out there also rock started as on genra and now theirs at least five major sub genra

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08-05-2005, 07:04 PM
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,822	The Language Of Rock & Metal. Help! Hey everyone. Im doing a research topic at university for english and I need your help. I need help answering these questions: 1. Has the language of rock and metal changed over the last forty years? i.e post-1965.Things i'm looking for can be changes in meaning (For example, does rock have a different meaning now than what it has meant in the past?). Changes in the way society looks at Rock and Metal music (For example there is now such things as christian rock, who would have thought you could associate the two together?? lol) 2. What words and terms are associated with the world of Rock and Metal? Now this is quite general so just list anything that comes to your mind. But more importantly is what kind of images do they portray or represent (For example, Tommy Lee and his body of tattoos, represents rebellion and all that kind of stuff. Any help would be welcome and feel free to debate with others as it makes my research range wider without having to work for it P.S links to websites are appreciated. __________________ Right you lot, shut it. Strewth Fowler my son, all looks a bit pear-shaped round here or what. The govenor's talking, Saturday's game, very dodgy, very naughty, could go a little pear-shaped. If there's a rough things might be well iffy. These faces are a little bit hard, know what I mean, a little bit of oof, have some of that my son, bosh, sorted, ta ta, got me, so be clever. Good, now shut it!

08-05-2005, 09:31 PM
PhishFood Bottom-Feeder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Dreamscape Posts: 323	you could probly write a five paragraph essay on the hand gestures of rock and metal through out the years... peace sign, "devil horns" __________________ Winos don't march

08-06-2005, 11:37 AM
SaTaNsChIlD666 IM COMING FOR YOU! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottomless pit of self mutilation Posts: 284	the metal music today is looked at the same way as it was is the 80's...people in society still just cant except it...just becasue its so out there and crazy....although it is becoming more and more popular __________________ I'm a monster so don't walk my way. I'll drag you down & suck you dry. Don't laugh at my jokes- the punchline is murder. Don't enjoy my touch, every caress hides a chokehold. I'm only happy when I've ruined everything I see. Believe everything you've ever heard about me- suck it up. I will not lie about what I have done, I will not lie about what I will do to you, the sweat of my exertion is pure poison, I'm hell..---Lamb of God

08-06-2005, 11:56 AM
Stu Be like a squirrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 3,134	in my opinion- well theres a lot less emphasis on the traditional and locational forms of rock nowadays as oppose to say the 60s (bluegrass, southern rock, rockabilly, folk rock etc) and now everybody is trying to find new terms to describe new sub-movements of the recent indie phase- noise-rock, art-rock, post-rock etc. indie itself is now a mainstream antithesis of what it originally stood for- independance FROM the mainstream while punk has just branched out into all kinds of sub-genres, any band with an attitude could be tagged with the punk monica now. errrr, now its all about the guitar led pop-bands chart wise and a big electro influence is prevalent within the rock industry. metal wise- well what do you want a list of all the sub-genres? just type into google. __________________ This is me. http://www.myspace.com/limbodwelling Good evening i unzipped my skin thankfully unscrewed my head exactly as i always do when i prepare myself for bed and while i slept this co-co came as naked as could be he put on the skin and screwed on the head that once belonged to me

08-06-2005, 01:35 PM
TheBig3KilledMyRainDog Maybe I can keep this one Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bostonia Posts: 3,825	I wrote a big opinion and just didn't feel like defending this fight later. Look up the history of: Elvis Little Richard Zeppelin* Prince Rap's influence on rock in the 90's The New indie dance movement use them to focus on the thinly veiled references to sex such as the lemon juice running down his leg. __________________ “The night falls gracefully for those who have a love to call their own. But alas, for those to whom love has turned a blind eye – love, it falls like a guillotine”* “No more waiting for fate to befall me, no. I have my dreamboat, and together we will find our destiny, choose our ladder to the sky” - Markus Pierson

08-07-2005, 04:44 PM
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,822	Cheers guys, i had bin doing a bit of hunting around before hand and then i thought the forums are bound to have people with heaps of memories from earlier times of rock and metal history so i thought why not ask. So thanks a heap __________________ Right you lot, shut it. Strewth Fowler my son, all looks a bit pear-shaped round here or what. The govenor's talking, Saturday's game, very dodgy, very naughty, could go a little pear-shaped. If there's a rough things might be well iffy. These faces are a little bit hard, know what I mean, a little bit of oof, have some of that my son, bosh, sorted, ta ta, got me, so be clever. Good, now shut it!

08-07-2005, 04:48 PM
Zygomycota Sleazy Producer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 1001's: A Whirlwind of Adventures! Posts: 202	Ummmm........Rock & Roll was slang for Sex. That might help for word meanings. __________________ "In your sad machine, you'll forever stay..." http://www.purevolume.com/zygomycota PM me if you have any comments^ :)

08-26-2005, 04:06 AM
gratesaga Groupie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8	peolpe from past generations think the new generations is to wild and out there also rock started as on genra and now theirs at least five major sub genra