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View Poll Results: Bob Dylan's vocal talent?
0/5! Utterly Intolerable! 3 18.75%
1/5. Horrid 1 6.25%
2/5. Bad 1 6.25%
3/5. OK 1 6.25%
4/5. It's actually Good. 5 31.25%
5/5! Bob Dylan's Amazing! 5 31.25%
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I guess Zimmie's inspiration for singing the way he does comes from Roscoe Holcomb. ... and maybe his a rabbi or a cantor. I don't know if he was religious or not to go to a synagogue to hear a cantor sing to inspire him to incorporate that into his singing. I'm not sure about the Jewish cantor, that is just a hypothesis. It seems he sounds very nasally when he speaks too, which could be a speech impediment, and with some speech therapy and some practice he can over-come it. Some people call it a "nasal whine." I guess his problem with that probably affects his singing. He really doesn't have the worst voice out there. Once you get used to it, it's no big deal. He does mention Holcomb as an influence though, so maybe that is what Zimmie is aiming for.
nasal => nose => jew => cantor?
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:03 PM   #22 (permalink)
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For a singer who can't sing he has had a pretty admirable career. Then again he owes most of his success to Satan.
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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nasal => nose => jew => cantor?
I don't know what you mean. Maybe you misunderstood me too, maybe I should explain what I meant. Everyone who has heard Zimmie would be aware of his unique singing voice. I was wondering if he was brought up religious and went to temple on Shabbat and heard a cantor sing that inspired him. if I am not mistaken I think Neil Diamond was.... Zimmie mentions Roscoe Holcomb as an influence. Not sure as a musical influence in general or as vocal influence. In my opinion I don't think Zimmie comes off as sounding exactly like Holcomb though. Another factor could be his nasally projection of his voice, so maybe when he sings he projects he singing through his nose. I think when you sing you should sing 50/50 nose and chest.
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
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His voice is like whiskey. It's gonna burn, and you're gonna wince at first, but after a few sips, it goes down smooth, and you don't want anything else.
^ Yes, I agree. Futhermore, back in the sixties too many folkies were going in this direction, with technically pleasant voices:-



To me Dylan's was the anguished voice of the individual, cutting through a lot of sugared-up junk. I was eleven years old when I first heard this song coming out of a neighbour's radio set; so startling that I still remember the moment:-



Dylan actually has an under-ratedly good voice imo, though I don't like the poor guy's croaking in recent years.
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I remember, the first time i heard subterranean home sick blues i momentarily thought of giving up writing lyrics.

"why bother?" - I thought.

"I'm never going to write something that good"
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:21 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I know but whenever i see a musician do something i consider spectacular i go through a little process. First, i get bummed out. Second, i feel a surge of envy. Third, i use that envy to try to be as good him.

It's not a feeling i experience too often but they are the key moments that expand my horizons. Few artist have given my that feeling and Bob is one of them. (despite the fact i'm not a huge fan of him)
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1. Pick song I want to imitate
2. Cry myself to sleep knowing I will never be that good.
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4. Profit
Yeah. I go through something similar.
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Perhaps you should try to be as good as you can be, not as good as someone else can be.

People are not created equal, despite that seriously-flawed political document stating otherwise.
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