Not actually a lyric yet... (country, rock, albums, title)

DontRunMeOver · 08-14-2006, 08:51 AM

Like the title says, I haven't written the lyric yet, but I'm going to write a song which goes into the mini-dilemma faced by most people in developed countries who are anti-colonisation, anti-slavery and anti-exploitation when the wealth of their country and the comparitive comfort that they have enjoyed throughout their lives is largely founded upon that very exploitation.

Good song topic? Anybody have any feelings or ideas on the matter, which I can throw into my currently-brewing brain? I'm still figuring out how to approach it, so any input is helpful.

MURDER JUNKIE · 08-14-2006, 09:46 AM

not a good topic at all, when those World Vision commercials come on I just turn them off. Get a job you lazy bastards!!!

I just bought a hot tub this weekend, enjoy your rice

Yours sincerely,
MURDER JUNKIE

DontRunMeOver · 08-14-2006, 10:51 AM

You definitely got the wrong end of the songwriting stick there MJ.

I'm still wondering why I'm so miserably failing to get the point across, as you're definitely not the first person to misinterpret the idea. One of my friends thought it was meant to be having a go at second generations immigrants from former colonies who use the NHS, get schooled in the UK then turn all terrorist on us (that's not what I'm going to write about) and MJ thinks that its some guilt-trip based on feeling bad about being rich. Its neither of those.

Does anybody get what I'm getting at? Its basically saying that people who say they're ashamed that such things happened which have led to the wealth they enjoy today are twits, because although they don't like to accept it, without that **** having happened, they'd probably be drinking muddy water and subsistance farming today. And if they think they'd be happier that way, then they're amazingly naive. I prefer to try to put harsh realities, rather than pious sentiments, into songs...

Plus, I think its mainly the western documentary makers who end up making a lot of people in 3rd world countries look like sappy losers, while they're trying to make everybody feel sorry for them.

MURDER JUNKIE · 08-14-2006, 10:56 AM

anyhoo, too deep.

Less talk, more ROCK!!!

DontRunMeOver · 08-14-2006, 10:59 AM

It will rock, but I'm going to freak people out by making them think while listening to rock.

Notice the original statement "I'm going to write a song which...". "I'm" meaning "I am". That part isn't open to negotiations.

**right-track** · 08-14-2006, 01:00 PM

I get it...your saying the modern rich are hypocrites for being "right on" about current world issues, when the same issues in the past is where their money/privileges, originally came from.

DontRunMeOver · 08-14-2006, 01:27 PM

Yep, spot on Right-Track. So, now that Right-Track has summed it up nicely, does anybody have any opinions they'd like to throw in, to give me more to mull over as I set about writing a lyric? Once again, the song is going to be about how:

the modern rich are hypocrites for being "right on" about current world issues, when the same issues in the past is where their money/privileges, originally came from.

Suggestions, opinions, anything will be appreciated. Even if you misintepret what I'm trying to say, its still useful in many ways. Any reponse is better than none at the moment!

**right-track** · 08-14-2006, 01:45 PM

Who are you targeting?
The young pretentious hippy rich types, or the older, smug, arrogant "it's all in the name of charity", self satisfied twats type?

DontRunMeOver · 08-14-2006, 03:17 PM

The young-uns, definitely. My dad was a rotary president a few years ago and I know from experience that most of the older people who organise charity fund-raising things don't do it out of a sense of silly guilt, they just do it because they feel like doing it and quite like all that fund-raising. If people put their own time and effort (and maybe money) into doing something like that, I have no problem with it. Its their choice and their time. Yes, there may be quite a few weirdos who go and bucket collect in a completely charmless way - but I can't really write about them as I know nothing of them as people... except for that they seems a bit weird.

However, when you get other young people who go on about wanting student fees abolished AND more money pumped into education AND a new mobile with an onboard camera and bluetooth AND some brand-spanking new clothes from the sales AND sweat-shops abolished AND a well paid job after their education AND third-world debt to be written off AND their free coffee at lunchtime AND a fair deal for coffee farmers...

That kind of peevs me.

So, thanks for that question. Its given me more focus. Kind of convenient, the way I feel about it, as its mostly going to be younger people listening to our music so I can sing the issue right to them.

**right-track** · 08-14-2006, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

who go on about wanting student fees abolished AND more money pumped into education AND a new mobile with an onboard camera and bluetooth AND some brand-spanking new clothes from the sales AND sweat-shops abolished AND a well paid job after their education AND third-world debt to be written off AND their free coffee at lunchtime AND a fair deal for coffee farmers...

^ Rattling off your grievences there...an idea for a chorus??

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08-14-2006, 09:46 AM
MURDER JUNKIE Who Loves Ya Baby??? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SH1TTY London Ontario Canada Posts: 2,387	not a good topic at all, when those World Vision commercials come on I just turn them off. Get a job you lazy bastards!!! I just bought a hot tub this weekend, enjoy your rice Yours sincerely, MURDER JUNKIE __________________ I've been had at least that's how it looks and it's not funny like on TV and it's not smart like it is in books

08-14-2006, 10:56 AM
MURDER JUNKIE Who Loves Ya Baby??? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SH1TTY London Ontario Canada Posts: 2,387	anyhoo, too deep. Less talk, more ROCK!!! __________________ I've been had at least that's how it looks and it's not funny like on TV and it's not smart like it is in books

08-14-2006, 01:00 PM
right-track Avin' It! Join Date: May 2005 Location: THE PEOPLES ЯEPUBLIK ФF MAИCUИIA Posts: 5,055	I get it...your saying the modern rich are hypocrites for being "right on" about current world issues, when the same issues in the past is where their money/privileges, originally came from. __________________ Choose Liverpool. Choose the dole queue. Choose to scam disability benefit. Choose mind-numbing, grinding efficiency over flair. Choose Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma and Paul Stewart. Choose not to win a single league title since the backpass rule was implemented. Choose penalties. Choose car stereos, hubcaps and stanley knives. Choose to trade on your proud sense of tradition and then not lift a finger in protest when two American billionaires who don't even know the name of your club decide to buy it. Choose to win the European Cup whilst only having to play seven matches. Choose to bask in a perpetual, sickening, media love-in. Choose celebrities who ** off out of your city as soon as they have earned the money to do so and then spend the rest of their lives harping on about how wonderful it is. Choose to sing about Munich until confronted with your own tragedy. Choose to end it all in an orgy of self pity, just another excuse to perpetuate the grief culture spawned by your selfish, insular **ed-up excuse for a city. Choose your future. Choose Scouse.

08-14-2006, 01:45 PM
right-track Avin' It! Join Date: May 2005 Location: THE PEOPLES ЯEPUBLIK ФF MAИCUИIA Posts: 5,055	Who are you targeting? The young pretentious hippy rich types, or the older, smug, arrogant "it's all in the name of charity", self satisfied twats type? __________________ Choose Liverpool. Choose the dole queue. Choose to scam disability benefit. Choose mind-numbing, grinding efficiency over flair. Choose Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma and Paul Stewart. Choose not to win a single league title since the backpass rule was implemented. Choose penalties. Choose car stereos, hubcaps and stanley knives. Choose to trade on your proud sense of tradition and then not lift a finger in protest when two American billionaires who don't even know the name of your club decide to buy it. Choose to win the European Cup whilst only having to play seven matches. Choose to bask in a perpetual, sickening, media love-in. Choose celebrities who ** off out of your city as soon as they have earned the money to do so and then spend the rest of their lives harping on about how wonderful it is. Choose to sing about Munich until confronted with your own tragedy. Choose to end it all in an orgy of self pity, just another excuse to perpetuate the grief culture spawned by your selfish, insular **ed-up excuse for a city. Choose your future. Choose Scouse.