I Sin, You Sin (lyrics, metal, punk, genre, title)

enemyat_thesix · 11-08-2007, 03:06 PM

lyrics don't make a genre, but genres do produce and perform styles of lyrics unique to themselves. for example, an indiepop band isn't going to sing about dismembering a prostitute, like a brutal death metal band would, nor would a metalcore band sing about things as abstract as Animal Collective does.

the subject matter does not need to be original. by that standard, all music has sucked for the past several decades, with few exceptions. everything has been written about. furthermore, lyrics do not need extensive vocabularies to be good, either. sometimes the simplest of words and the most succinct of songs are the most powerful. besides, no one wants to sing along to seven-syllable words they dont' even understand. plain and simple, this song is meant to be performed ina basement to 50 kids, by an unkempt man with an acoustic guitar. the crowd shouts along and everyone is happy. that is folk-punk

**sleepy jack** · 11-08-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix

an indiepop band isn't going to sing about dismembering a prostitute

I'd seriously love to hear that though.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN · 11-08-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix

for example, an indiepop band isn't going to sing about dismembering a prostitute, like a brutal death metal band would, nor would a metalcore band sing about things as abstract as Animal Collective does.

this is where originality (or lack of) comes in.

just because "music has sucked for the past few decades", it doesnt mean you have to adhere to those "sucky" standards. if anything, why would you want to?

I know what you are saying though, and I'm not disputing that the song could work. Sort of playing devil's advocate.

Kevorkian Logic · 11-08-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix

lyrics don't make a genre, but genres do produce and perform styles of lyrics unique to themselves. for example, an indiepop band isn't going to sing about dismembering a prostitute, like a brutal death metal band would, nor would a metalcore band sing about things as abstract as Animal Collective does.

the subject matter does not need to be original. by that standard, all music has sucked for the past several decades, with few exceptions. everything has been written about. furthermore, lyrics do not need extensive vocabularies to be good, either. sometimes the simplest of words and the most succinct of songs are the most powerful. besides, no one wants to sing along to seven-syllable words they dont' even understand. plain and simple, this song is meant to be performed ina basement to 50 kids, by an unkempt man with an acoustic guitar. the crowd shouts along and everyone is happy. that is folk-punk

Concerning you comment about originality in todays subject matters, i'm just going to post one of my many college short-answers and hope that makes a point

I have been told that there are more way to express a single idea in English than any other language. Something is magical about the fact that I can think of at least 15 different ways off the top of my to express happiness...[stuff about why I like English and music]....Ultimately that is why I like songs and books so much. They can take cliche ideas and by using unique combinations of words, express a familiar concept in a way that opens up a world of unrealized possibilities.

But seriously, your digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole.

enemyat_thesix · 11-08-2007, 07:47 PM

well of course, the goal is to express old ideas in new ways. the ideas never change, though.

by the way, I hope you are not in college. *you're

The Dave · 11-08-2007, 07:50 PM

+1 FOR THE GRAMMAR POLICE!

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enemyat_thesix · 11-08-2007, 08:09 PM

go listen 2 ur soaf kid

The Dave · 11-08-2007, 09:35 PM

I'm sorry, I just can't over how much of a twat you are.

Kevorkian Logic · 11-09-2007, 05:29 AM

Why can't you just accept you wrote some god awful lyrics? And stop trying to say I, or anyone else on this site, doesn't understand folk-punk, it's very self-centered to think that. I know what folk-punk lyrics sounds like, and this does not sound like folk punk.

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 11-11-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I don't really see much constructive criticism in here. What I see is someone gave a helpful opinion, which was negative and then everyone jumped on the hate train and started throwing out the common "this song is bad" terms like "cliche" and then bam, it's two pages of useless posts.

Useful didn't get us to far. I think most of us are wondering why he even asked our opinion if he thought it was so great.

I don't think its fair to expect people to be mature when thats met with ignorant hostility.

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