(my date with) thorazine (lyrics, ballad, Creed, tune, song)

TheCaster · 12-14-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by acenoface

lyrics are written for the ears, poetry is written for the eyes, and both have rules

undisciplined lyrics may not be able to be sung, but they are 20 times better..

and ocne again songwriting is NOT A SCIENCE there is no rules. you can revise lyrics or build a song around lyrics.... i garuntee you no matter how much you say that these lyrics cant be sung, i will not only figure out a way to sing them but put a guitar behind it...

**jackhammer** · 12-14-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by acenoface

lyrics are written for the ears, poetry is written for the eyes, and both have rules

Lyrics are written for the mind to digest. Poetry is written for the mind to digest.

acenoface · 12-14-2007, 05:45 PM

I think Sheila Davis, PhDauthor of The Craft of Lyric Writing and others would disagree

**jackhammer** · 12-14-2007, 06:02 PM

Would she? I have never read her lyrics. Lyrics are intrinsically linked with the music that accompanies them. As her name doesnt mean shít to me, I will stand by my original statement,

acenoface · 12-14-2007, 06:57 PM

If there were no rules to songwriting, why would Berklee School of Music offer several courses in, and a certificate, in songwriting? Why would books on music and lyric theory be so popular?

**jackhammer** · 12-14-2007, 07:02 PM

Profit?

TheCaster · 12-14-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Would she? I have never read her lyrics. Lyrics are intrinsically linked with the music that accompanies them. As her name doesnt mean shít to me, I will stand by my original statement,

your my ****ing hero dude...

TheCaster · 12-14-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by acenoface

If there were no rules to songwriting, why would Berklee School of Music offer several courses in, and a certificate, in songwriting? Why would books on music and lyric theory be so popular?

because of a bunch of dip****s that try to turn songwriting into something that can be understood...

show me any great lyricist that has any kind of degree in songwriting...

Ace · 12-15-2007, 02:32 AM

The problem here is that you put too much faith in Berklee, as if it's supposed to impress us that you've attended such courses. Lyrics only need to have good structure, and in my opinion, be made to make you think. They can rhyme, or they can ramble on, but they do not need to look like something out of a local nursery rhyme. I'm not putting you down in any way, I'm just saying, try less rhyming with your work. It may sound good with music put to it to you, but keep in mind, we don't hear how you wrote it. We interpret it for ourselves. Read it for yourself as if someone else had wrote it. The rhyming really is a bad trait.

Kevorkian Logic · 12-15-2007, 07:04 AM

acenoface. Amazing things tend to come naturally, you can learn how to inmate a style of writing lyrics out of a book, but you can't learn how to make truly unique captivating lyrics out of a book. You just can't.

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12-14-2007, 06:57 PM
acenoface Groupie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 18	If there were no rules to songwriting, why would Berklee School of Music offer several courses in, and a certificate, in songwriting? Why would books on music and lyric theory be so popular? __________________

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jackhammer Recieved first cool point Join Date: May 2007 Location: U.K Posts: 5,966	Profit? __________________ My music collection.cough cough enjoy. Ha Ha charade you are. My dvd collection.

12-15-2007, 02:32 AM
Ace Negative Creep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 647	The problem here is that you put too much faith in Berklee, as if it's supposed to impress us that you've attended such courses. Lyrics only need to have good structure, and in my opinion, be made to make you think. They can rhyme, or they can ramble on, but they do not need to look like something out of a local nursery rhyme. I'm not putting you down in any way, I'm just saying, try less rhyming with your work. It may sound good with music put to it to you, but keep in mind, we don't hear how you wrote it. We interpret it for ourselves. Read it for yourself as if someone else had wrote it. The rhyming really is a bad trait. __________________ She said if time was in a bottle High up on her shelf She would knock it over And make the world stand still If faith was in her left hand And love was in her right She'd put them both together And raise them to the sky http://myspace.com/euphoric_resolve

12-15-2007, 07:04 AM
Kevorkian Logic Ya Wanna Trip? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 948	acenoface. Amazing things tend to come naturally, you can learn how to inmate a style of writing lyrics out of a book, but you can't learn how to make truly unique captivating lyrics out of a book. You just can't. __________________ She was laughing like crazy at the trouble I'm in Her light eyes were dancing she is insane Schizophrenia is taking me home