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Loser · 05-19-2008, 08:53 PM

well explain that to their dismal performance without him, they are terriable, the front line isn't that great compared to otehr teams in the western conference, the bench isn't deep at all. If Kobe is injured this team will be terriable. Lack of ecpierence because it is still a fairly young team doesn't boad well for them. If you look at teams liek New Orleans Chris Paul is the star player but he gets everyone involved and makes them better, same Lebron James, same witha bunch of other teams. Other teams have star players too, just they make the surrounding cast look better.

ProggyMan · 05-19-2008, 09:01 PM

Uh, when? You mean when he was injured against the Jazz? I'd hardly call that dismal. Anyway, what are you trying to say? Other teams have star players, well no ****. But so what? A lot of teams don't and if the Lakers didn't the Lakers wouldn't be elite like they are now. But they would still be good. I'd like to hear how you figure their bench and front line isn't good. They have Odom and Gasol, that gives them an excellent 1-2 punch and with Bynum? ****. Their bench consists of players like Luke Walton, Radmonivic, Vjacic, Farmar, Turiaf...Not many that are better in the NBA.

**LesPaul43** · 05-19-2008, 09:03 PM

How bout them Spurs

Loser · 05-19-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Uh, when? You mean when he was injured against the Jazz? I'd hardly call that dismal. Anyway, what are you trying to say? Other teams have star players, well no ****. But so what? A lot of teams don't and if the Lakers didn't the Lakers wouldn't be elite like they are now. But they would still be good. I'd like to hear how you figure their bench and front line isn't good. They have Odom and Gasol, that gives them an excellent 1-2 punch and with Bynum? ****. Their bench consists of players like Luke Walton, Radmonivic, Vjacic, Farmar, Turiaf...Not many that are better in the NBA.

No, not during the Jazz, in the regular season this year nd past years.
Odom is ageing he is nothing like he was with the Clippers and with that age brings missed oppurtunities, look at Shaq for example he was the greatest center when with the Lakers now he's gotten older and isn't the same player point and everything are down, same with Odom. Gasol is great but if you say he is the greatest you are wrong without a shadow of a doubt. Bynum isn't that great he can dunk, rebound and on occasion block, he is still inexpierenced and that is what's gonna hurt them in the long run. Luke Walton isn't that great, Radmonivic only goes for 3's which isn't the best choice, Vjacic is medicore, Farmar is still inexpierenced (he's only been in the NBA for maybe 2-3 years).....Detroit, Boston, San Antonio, New Orleans, Dallas, Phoenix are all much better depth wise....Even Utah is better, they just couldn't match up with Kobe.

ProggyMan · 05-19-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Loser

No, not during the Jazz, in the regular season this year nd past years.
Odom is ageing he is nothing like he was with the Clippers and with that age brings missed oppurtunities, look at Shaq for example he was the greatest center when with the Lakers now he's gotten older and isn't the same player point and everything are down, same with Odom. Gasol is great but if you say he is the greatest you are wrong without a shadow of a doubt. Bynum isn't that great he can dunk, rebound and on occasion block, he is still inexpierenced and that is what's gonna hurt them in the long run. Luke Walton isn't that great, Radmonivic only goes for 3's which isn't the best choice, Vjacic is medicore, Farmar is still inexpierenced (he's only been in the NBA for maybe 2-3 years).....Detroit, Boston, San Antonio, New Orleans, Dallas, Phoenix are all much better depth wise....Even Utah is better, they just couldn't match up with Kobe.

In past years? Lol. Odom isn't even old, he's in his prime, great shape but now he's more experienced and I'd say his play this year disproves what you're saying about him. I never said Gasol was the greatest. But he's one of the best in the NBA right now. Bynum's inexperience will hurt him in the long run? Isn't that kinda'...Nonsensical? Well yeah, none of their bench players are great, but that's why their bench players. They've got a bunch of solid role players that do their job. But Phoenix? They run a 7 man rotation for God's sake! Utah has a mediocre bench, I don't know why you think they're better. Beyond Millsap and maybe Harpring they don't have much. Seriously, look at the bench scoring for the series...The Lakers are on of the best in the league in that category.

Loser · 05-19-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

In past years? Lol. Odom isn't even old, he's in his prime, great shape but now he's more experienced and I'd say his play this year disproves what you're saying about him. I never said Gasol was the greatest. But he's one of the best in the NBA right now. Bynum's inexperience will hurt him in the long run? Isn't that kinda'...Nonsensical? Well yeah, none of their bench players are great, but that's why their bench players. They've got a bunch of solid role players that do their job. But Phoenix? They run a 7 man rotation for God's sake! Utah has a mediocre bench, I don't know why you think they're better. Beyond Millsap and maybe Harpring they don't have much. Seriously, look at the bench scoring for the series...The Lakers are on of the best in the league in that category.

Age wise he might not be old, in "NBA years" he is. if you look at him when he was with the clippers there is a BIG difference, he is not in his prime at all he's been around the block, he's seen and done a bunch of stuff, saying he is in his prime is false. His play this year disproves what I said? he get's maybe 14 points a game with a 5-8 rebound night....With the Clippers he could easily get 20 and 10. And yes if you are not expierenced, you'll either choke or get so energetic you do something stupid, it happens all the time with kids coming right out of high school, look at Jermaine O'Neal. Phoenix has a deep bench that fits into the fast break system they put in place, they might not be exceptional players on a defense minded team but it works for what they do....Barbosa, Bell, Hunter, Skinner you can't tell me they don't have a decent bench for what they want to play. Dude, lakers bench isn't that great, you need bench scoring to win plain and simple but once you face teams like the Spurs, Detroit, Boston and others your bench isn't gonna do nothing. If you say their bench is better than those teams, your wrong....No doubt about it. And the players name is HASLIP not Millsap haha.

ProggyMan · 05-19-2008, 10:31 PM

Actually he averaged 14.2 and 10.6 a game this year. Hardly over the hill. You said 'inexperience will hurt him in the long run'. The long run. Lol. Phoenix doesn't have half the Lakers bench. They run a 7 man rotation. Beyond that they rarely play other guys. Uh, so good defense magically makes good bench scoring disappear? I have to disagree there. Uh, Paul Millsap isn't a bench player for the Jazz?

bsmix · 05-19-2008, 11:28 PM

The lakers have the best bench in the NBA.
I don't know if its because of age, but Odom didn't seem comfortable being the #2 scorer. It's just not his thing to be super aggressive. During the beginning of the season he was kinda playing poor and I wondered if the lakes could better spend that $13.5M. But during the second half of the season he was getting a double double almost every night with some triple doubles. During the last several months he has been super consistent. What was he like in his prime?!?! and in case you didn't realize, this team is a way different team than last years. We are the most dominant team in the playoffs so far without our starting center! But I'm still scared of the spurs for sure.
PS my bracket is still perfect.

NoseClams · 05-20-2008, 03:00 PM

my guess. celtics in 7 games! Lakers in 6!

matious · 05-20-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43

How bout them Spurs

how bout you shut the **** up >: [

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05-19-2008, 08:53 PM
Loser The Professor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 1,138	well explain that to their dismal performance without him, they are terriable, the front line isn't that great compared to otehr teams in the western conference, the bench isn't deep at all. If Kobe is injured this team will be terriable. Lack of ecpierence because it is still a fairly young team doesn't boad well for them. If you look at teams liek New Orleans Chris Paul is the star player but he gets everyone involved and makes them better, same Lebron James, same witha bunch of other teams. Other teams have star players too, just they make the surrounding cast look better. __________________ "It's just so fuckin' weird. You write about this shit, and you're suddenly the spokesman for a fuckin' generation,...... Any generation that would pick Kurt or me as its spokesman -- that must be a pretty fucked up generation, don't you think?"

05-19-2008, 09:01 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,796	Uh, when? You mean when he was injured against the Jazz? I'd hardly call that dismal. Anyway, what are you trying to say? Other teams have star players, well no **. But so what? A lot of teams don't and if the Lakers didn't the Lakers wouldn't be elite like they are now. But they would still be good. I'd like to hear how you figure their bench and front line isn't good. They have Odom and Gasol, that gives them an excellent 1-2 punch and with Bynum? **. Their bench consists of players like Luke Walton, Radmonivic, Vjacic, Farmar, Turiaf...Not many that are better in the NBA. __________________ Shut the fuck up and recognize what you holding ain't really broken. -Ian Bavitz If Noah had the benefit of hindsight on his ship he coulda' snatched two unicorns and left behind the mother fuckin' pigs. -Ian Bavitz I <3: Crowquill is cool. Sorta. I hate the Fall Of Troy. And Joy Division. And West Side Story.

05-19-2008, 09:03 PM
LesPaul43 Bring da Ruckus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia Posts: 4,011	How bout them Spurs __________________ Life's not a bitch life is a beautiful woman You only call her a bitch because she won't let you get that pussy Maybe she didn't feel y'all shared any similar interests When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold

05-19-2008, 10:31 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,796	Actually he averaged 14.2 and 10.6 a game this year. Hardly over the hill. You said 'inexperience will hurt him in the long run'. The long run. Lol. Phoenix doesn't have half the Lakers bench. They run a 7 man rotation. Beyond that they rarely play other guys. Uh, so good defense magically makes good bench scoring disappear? I have to disagree there. Uh, Paul Millsap isn't a bench player for the Jazz? __________________ Shut the fuck up and recognize what you holding ain't really broken. -Ian Bavitz If Noah had the benefit of hindsight on his ship he coulda' snatched two unicorns and left behind the mother fuckin' pigs. -Ian Bavitz I <3: Crowquill is cool. Sorta. I hate the Fall Of Troy. And Joy Division. And West Side Story.

05-19-2008, 11:28 PM
bsmix Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 171	The lakers have the best bench in the NBA. I don't know if its because of age, but Odom didn't seem comfortable being the #2 scorer. It's just not his thing to be super aggressive. During the beginning of the season he was kinda playing poor and I wondered if the lakes could better spend that $13.5M. But during the second half of the season he was getting a double double almost every night with some triple doubles. During the last several months he has been super consistent. What was he like in his prime?!?! and in case you didn't realize, this team is a way different team than last years. We are the most dominant team in the playoffs so far without our starting center! But I'm still scared of the spurs for sure. PS my bracket is still perfect. __________________ a music nazi....is still a nazi

05-20-2008, 03:00 PM
NoseClams Ghost man on First! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 154	my guess. celtics in 7 games! Lakers in 6! __________________ "Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson http://www.last.fm/user/NoseClams/