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ProggyMan · 05-23-2008, 06:08 PM

Brook Lopez is getting some attention it seems. As a Stanford fan I hope he drops down, but imagine Al Jafferson and Lopez in the frontcourt a few years down the line...Whew...They could trade down and pick up Love too.

**JayJamJah** · 05-23-2008, 11:30 PM

Though they were my favorite two college players last year Love and Lopez are certainly hit or miss prospects, also the draft lottery is clearly fixed.

TheUsed2lguy · 05-23-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Nah, they're going 1-2 to the Heat and Bulls. I'm hoping we (The Heat) pick up Beasley. Rose is a project with his horrible jumper.

I think Rose will be great with the Bulls next year. Beasley, I'm not so sure. I'll bet he could easily get 20 a night, but he'll probably take 22 shots like Durant did.
At some point, you have to wonder how much these guys like Arenas, B. Davis, Iverson, and Durant are hurting their teams. Grant it, they're fun to watch, but their shooting percentages are atrocious.

ProggyMan · 05-23-2008, 11:45 PM

Yah, I love Lopez, and I think he's got a great upside, and certainly worth the risk.

TheUsed2lguy · 05-24-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Yah, I love Lopez, and I think he's got a great upside, and certainly worth the risk.

Yeah right, that's probably what they thought about Jason and Jarron Collins.

**JayJamJah** · 05-24-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

Yeah right, that's probably what they thought about Jason and Jarron Collins.

The Collins brothers never were scorers anything like Lopez is. Brooke is taller, more athletic and more skilled. Robin may be the third (skinniest) Collins brother by NBA standards, but Brooke could be a star.

ProggyMan · 05-24-2008, 10:28 AM

He's (Robin) 5 more pounds than Brook, more skilled defensively and a better finisher. It's the athleticism, post moves, and jumper that set Brook apart.

**JayJamJah** · 05-24-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Yah, also Carmelo, Wade, Bosh, Oden, Durant maybe Beasley and Rose.

Carmelo = Glenn Robinson, Jamal Mashburn etc. All-star not superstar

D Wade = Not tough; injuries have slowed him physically, needs to develop his jump shot to remain in superstar debate.

Bosh = KG lite, not sure he's a superstar though he could become one.

Oden = TBD

Durant = May end up in that Mello category. Had a tough time as a rookie on a awful team. Clearly NBA starter skills, but he may be a 2nd option at best. Still TBD

I also think Dwight Howard could become a superstar; McGrady and KG still have superstar talent; KG is a superstar, but sometimes he forgets that. McGrady needs a chance to be on a great team before we close the book on him (he's not even 30 yet) but so far he has not gotten it done when it matters most.

Here's a list for discussion:

NBA's top 50 (+ = rising & - = falling)
1. Kobe Bean
2. Tim Duncan (-)
3. Lebron James (+)
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Chris Paul (+)
6. Tracy McGrady
7. Dwight Howard (+)
8. Deron Williams (+)
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Yao Ming
11. Dwayne Wade (-)
12. Chris Bosh (+)
13. Allen Iverson (-)
14. Rasheed Wallace
15. Carmelo Anthony
16. Paul Pierce
17. Jason Kidd (-)
18. Joe Johnson (+)
19. Amare Stoudamire
20. Carlos Boozer
21. Antwan Jamison
22. Caron Butler
23. Chauncy Billups
24. Steve Nash (-)
25. Vince Carter (-)
26. Baron Davis
27. Josh Howard (+)
28. Al Jefferson (+)
29. Gilbert Arenas (-)
30. Richard Hamilton
31. David West (+)
32. Tony Parker (+)
33. Manu Ginobili (+)
34. Michael Redd
35. Richard Jefferson
36. Andre Igodula (+)
37. Tayshaun Prince (+)
38. Kevin Martin (+)
39. Pau Gasol
40. Marcus Camby (-)
41. Rashard Lewis
42, Lamar Odum
43. Ray Allen (-)
44. Andre Miller
45. Stephen Jackson
46. Jason Richardson
47. Kevin Durant (+)
48. Shawn Marion (-)
49. Brandon Roy (+)
50. Shaquille O'Neal (-)

Josh Smith should be at 40 with everyone else dropping a spot.

ProggyMan · 05-24-2008, 11:18 AM

Woooaaah, you know Wade's fully healthy for the first time in 2 years, and he'll have a team that's actually pretty good this year. Here's to hoping they get Beasley.

NoseClams · 05-26-2008, 04:16 PM

so the celtics picked up their first road win! now they are leading the series 2 -1. as long as they can remain solid with their defense and stick with their usual home game performance they should be able to pick up the series.

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05-23-2008, 06:08 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,889	Brook Lopez is getting some attention it seems. As a Stanford fan I hope he drops down, but imagine Al Jafferson and Lopez in the frontcourt a few years down the line...Whew...They could trade down and pick up Love too. __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

05-23-2008, 11:30 PM
JayJamJah Revisonists History Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The end of the Earth Posts: 1,464	Though they were my favorite two college players last year Love and Lopez are certainly hit or miss prospects, also the draft lottery is clearly fixed.

05-23-2008, 11:45 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,889	Yah, I love Lopez, and I think he's got a great upside, and certainly worth the risk. __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

05-24-2008, 10:28 AM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,889	He's (Robin) 5 more pounds than Brook, more skilled defensively and a better finisher. It's the athleticism, post moves, and jumper that set Brook apart. __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

05-24-2008, 11:18 AM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,889	Woooaaah, you know Wade's fully healthy for the first time in 2 years, and he'll have a team that's actually pretty good this year. Here's to hoping they get Beasley. __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

05-26-2008, 04:16 PM
NoseClams Ghost man on First! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 156	so the celtics picked up their first road win! now they are leading the series 2 -1. as long as they can remain solid with their defense and stick with their usual home game performance they should be able to pick up the series. __________________ "Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson http://www.last.fm/user/NoseClams/