Linking drums, loops, synths and clicks LIVE

yes yes oh yay · 06-29-2009, 11:54 PM

Im currently trying to work out how to perform stuff ive recorded with my band live. We use a few loops and synths and need to know how to get it all synced up. The loops are all out of Logic and the synth is just a roland juno. The synth can obviously be hooked up with midi to the laptop so thats not really the problem.
The thing is is that we need then loops to come it an the right tempo in the middle of a song. This obviously requires some kind of click track for the drummer to follow, which Logic has. but if i play it through logic then the click will be part of the FoH mix which will sound crap. Im thinking maybe getting some kind of external click/metronome device that can be midi'd to the laptop and also a output that can be put through the mixer separately and so just be in the drummers monitors.

Would this work? if so, what is a cheap(ish) unit to do it, and are there any easier ways?

Cheers

Ricochet~kun · 06-30-2009, 02:57 PM

if your laptop is fast, then Fruity Loops 8 works
its what i use, but i thnk there might be better progams

Freebase Dali · 07-01-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by yes yes oh yay

Im currently trying to work out how to perform stuff ive recorded with my band live. We use a few loops and synths and need to know how to get it all synced up. The loops are all out of Logic and the synth is just a roland juno. The synth can obviously be hooked up with midi to the laptop so thats not really the problem.
The thing is is that we need then loops to come it an the right tempo in the middle of a song. This obviously requires some kind of click track for the drummer to follow, which Logic has. but if i play it through logic then the click will be part of the FoH mix which will sound crap. Im thinking maybe getting some kind of external click/metronome device that can be midi'd to the laptop and also a output that can be put through the mixer separately and so just be in the drummers monitors.

Would this work? if so, what is a cheap(ish) unit to do it, and are there any easier ways?

Cheers

It'd be far easier if you had a guy dedicated to triggering your samples and playing the synth. Otherwise, you guys might have a bit of a problem staying tight on that metronome.
The drummer is going to have a hard time hearing a click track in a live scenario.

yes yes oh yay · 07-01-2009, 09:00 PM

Yeah we're looking at getting someone to do that when we're on stage. it'd be alot easier. but the drummer would still have to be following a click or else when the loops come in they'll most likely be out of time. He's got in-ear monitors so that shouldn't be too hard?

Would it also be better to just get an actual sampler and load the loops and samples onto that and ditch the lap top?

Freebase Dali · 07-02-2009, 05:16 PM

Well you can go that route, or for a lot cheaper, get the M-Audio Trigger Finger which has pads and everything you need to control (via MIDI) a software sampler like NI's Kontakt.

But if you did end up getting a hardware sampler, make sure to get one that has a tap-tempo so you won't have to worry about click tracks and all that. It would just be up to the FX/samples guy to rhythmically tap the tempo in before triggering the loops.

yes yes oh yay · 07-05-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction

Well you can go that route, or for a lot cheaper, get the M-Audio Trigger Finger which has pads and everything you need to control (via MIDI) a software sampler like NI's Kontakt.

But if you did end up getting a hardware sampler, make sure to get one that has a tap-tempo so you won't have to worry about click tracks and all that. It would just be up to the FX/samples guy to rhythmically tap the tempo in before triggering the loops.

cool, thanks for your help man.

06-29-2009, 11:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
yes yes oh yay Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4	Linking drums, loops, synths and clicks LIVE Im currently trying to work out how to perform stuff ive recorded with my band live. We use a few loops and synths and need to know how to get it all synced up. The loops are all out of Logic and the synth is just a roland juno. The synth can obviously be hooked up with midi to the laptop so thats not really the problem. The thing is is that we need then loops to come it an the right tempo in the middle of a song. This obviously requires some kind of click track for the drummer to follow, which Logic has. but if i play it through logic then the click will be part of the FoH mix which will sound crap. Im thinking maybe getting some kind of external click/metronome device that can be midi'd to the laptop and also a output that can be put through the mixer separately and so just be in the drummers monitors. Would this work? if so, what is a cheap(ish) unit to do it, and are there any easier ways? Cheers

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07-01-2009, 09:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
yes yes oh yay Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4	Yeah we're looking at getting someone to do that when we're on stage. it'd be alot easier. but the drummer would still have to be following a click or else when the loops come in they'll most likely be out of time. He's got in-ear monitors so that shouldn't be too hard? Would it also be better to just get an actual sampler and load the loops and samples onto that and ditch the lap top?