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Old 03-14-2011, 12:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zero1986 View Post
Hmmm I'm not sure about this idea. I think setting up a new site might damage the wonderful MB community we currently have. Why risk fracturing our community just for the sake of some extra site features?
I think better idea would be to set up a petition for requesting change/more administration, get as many members as possible to put down their name and send it to the admins. Maybe they'll see the potential that this site has?
^ This.

I wrote before in another thread that if you could get enough people (1,000) to sign a petition asking the administration to make the site changes desired by MB members, then based on my experience with petitions in a REAL community of around 50,000 people this would probably get the leadership's attention and willingness to work on making improvements.

A petition, however, would require ORGANIZATION to be effective. You would probably need to set up a contact tree in which core members send private messages to other members to make them aware of the MB petition.

For example, those poeple who vote YES on your poll here, Tore, might be willing to try one last time to get the changes they want on MB by...
(1) working together to write a petition, and
(2) dividing the MB membership into sections based on their usernames (A-C, E-G, etc.) and sending private messages to the active users to ask them to sign the petition, which would be its own separate thread, similar to this one.

If 1,000 people sign the petition requesting changes to MB, and the administration STILL ignores these requests, then I think setting up a new site would be reasonable AND feasible, especially with 1,000 people ready to divert their energies to a new music community they create.

BTW, www.muzicbanter.com has not yet been taken as a domain name! I checked. You can buy a domain name for around $20/year at places like GoDaddy.com, and have your URL link to your new music community that you can set up for free at various websites, I assume. With a name like MuzicBanter, you might entice a lot of confused young new members who were trying to find MuzicForums or MusicBanter!

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Originally Posted by tore View Post
I believe it is a valid concern because if you're making a thread you'd otherwise make here there instead, that means part of djchameleon's activity (which there is a limited amount of) has shifted to the new site. For your activity here to stay as high as it is now while still posting on a new site, you'd have to increase the average amount of posts you make every day. I don't think one should assume that people will increase their overall activity and if they don't, that means their activity will shift from one site to another.

The two sites would be in the same niche or at least have very overlapping niches (general music discussion) and so would be competitors for limited resources which are users and the time those users spend on the internet.
I'm sorry, I wish it wasn't true, but .. it is. And it's something to consider.
I agree, Tore, that most members can't double the time they spend at music forums, and so their activity at MusicBanter would decrease if they were involved in a separate, new community.

I know one member of MuzicForums who, after being banned, set up a new website that I joined to show support. However, I just don't have time to post on MuzicForums AND another site AND here. If enough people from MB joined together to create a new site, I'd happily follow, however. That would mean I wouldn't post here as often, though, because I just wouldn't have the time to do both.

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Originally Posted by tore View Post
I like to believe that knocking me down from my position as a mod and/or banning me from the site would only have a negative impact on the site as a whole and hope that they would see that too. But you never know, there's definetly a risk, but sometimes they're worth taking.
*I* certainly think banning you from MB would be a HUGE HUGE HUGE loss.

I encourage you not to give up on MB until you (the mods) and other members have tried Zero's petition idea. It would require organization, communication, and effort to succeed.

If the petition failed, then leaving MB for a new community would *not* be abandonment or mutiny. The abandonment would have been done by the administration. That's the whole source of the problem to begin with: the administration has abandoned MB by being minimally responsive.

EDIT: Basically I'm saying what Right-Track said and posted while I was working on my longer version of his wise words!
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