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Originally Posted by Paloma
Yes, I do believe he existed but I know his divinity was invented
However if the rest of the **** is true, he was a pretty progressive guy. I'm down with Jesus, in that case.
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I do not believe a man named Jesus Christ ever stepped foot on this planet.
I do believe, however, that someone named Jesus did come in the flesh, was the Divine Word made flesh, and was born of a virgin named Mary. And, is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and was crucified, and not only will, but has risen again the third day.
But, the whole story is a literal myth. And, you are right, Jesus was cosmically progressive, and, I am really down with that as well. Jesus isn't so down with Christianity, however.
Now, without going all Josephus, can you prove that he actually was a historical walking, talking human being? Everyone who has studied knows that the Testimonium Flavianum is almost certainly a later interpolation.
Here's something interesting I will provide for free
MT 1:12 And after the Babylonian removal, Jeconiah begat
Shealtiel, and Shealtiel begat
Zerubbabel,
MT 1:13 and Zerubbabel begat
Abiud, and Abiud begat
Eliakim, and Eliakim begat
Azor,
MT 1:14 and Azor begat
Sadok, and Sadok begat
Achim, and Achim begat
Eliud,
MT 1:15 and Eliud begat
Eleazar, and Eleazar begat
Matthan, and Matthan begat
Jacob,
MT 1:16 and Jacob begat
Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was begotten
Jesus, who is named
Christ.
MT 1:17 All the generations, therefore, from Abraham unto David `are' fourteen generations, and from David unto the Babylonian removal fourteen generations,
and from the Babylonian removal unto the Christ, fourteen generations.
Count the bold blacks. Unless Jeconiah was begotten twice by Josiah, then we have a situation. Why does it have to be so freaking complicated?
Just come down through those clouds and clear it all up, already!
What's that Jesus? Too many airplanes? Ah crap! Rapture's off folks. Sorry.
I'm sure there is a bible scholar in the house here who can explain this Ramona. It would take me a book or two just for this one chapter.
Might have something to do with Uriah, so, I think some Uriah's Heep is in order.
Take me across the water
‘Cause I need some place to hide
I done the rancher’s daughter
And I sure did hurt his pride
Well, there's a
Hundred miles of desert
Lies between his hide and mine
I don't need no food
And no water, Lord
‘Cos I'm running out of time
Fightin', killin', wine and women
Gonna put me to my grave
Runnin', hidin', losin', cryin'
Nothing left to save but my life
Stood on a ridge
And shunned religion
Thinking the world was mine
I made my break and a big mistake
Stealin', when I
Should've been buyin'
All that fightin', killin'
Wine and those women
Gonna put me to an early grave
Runnin', hidin', losin', cryin'
Nothing left to save but my life, life...
So I stood on a ridge
And shunned religion
Thinking the world was mine
I made my break and a big mistake
Stealin', when I
Should've been buyin'
I was stealin’
When I should’ve been buyin’
I was stealin’
When I should’ve been buyin’
Stealin’, when I
Should’ve been buyin’ ..
I was stealin’ ...
Who wrote this 'psalm' anyway?
peace