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~~Lord Larehip~~ · 11-25-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

1. I am a cartographer (these days known a a G.I.S. dude).
2. As important in studying cartography is studying the history of surveying. They actually had surveyors survey barely inhabited portions of the west in the mid-1800's, placing stakes in trees in the wilderness, taking measurements with chains and doing a pretty darn good job of it given the crude tools they were using.

Ranchers and railroad barons bought up enormous areas of land and that was the real reason for the surveying.

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Regarding the Americans Indians, recent genetic research has determined that about 1/3 of the genes of American Indians come from from West Siberians, not East Siberians as is usually believed, which would put them closer to modern Europeans in lineage than modern East Asians. That might explain the apparent closeness of some tribes to customs and craftsmanship of some Europeans. But bear in mind this lineage goes back farther than what we now consider modern Europeans to look like. This was all before blond hair and the like evolved.

There were all kinds of people here. Take Kennewick Man and Spirit Cave Man--these have been determined to be a kind of hybrid of Ainu (a Caucasoid people who inhabited Japan before the classic Japanese) and Polynesian. Yet Spirit Cave Man wore an animal skin and moccasins. The Asatru (Nordic religion) practitioners were convinced Kennewick Man was a Nordic which only goes to show the kind of nonsense that gets spread around when science doesn't want to get involved.

The belief that the Clovis were here first does not appear to be true. The evidence says there were already people here when the Clovis showed up. This was thought not possible because of the presence of ice shelves over the land making it uninhabitable but this is no longer tenable. And people likely migrated here a variety of ways with the land bridge being only one way.

In upper Michigan, there are ancient copper pits still in existence that were mined by somebody. Whoever they were, they mined a huge amount of the what is called Lake Superior copper--about 1.5 billion pounds. It turns up all over the ancient world in faraway areas. How did it get there? Trade obviously but trade with whom? We don't know anything about the copper miners despite the fact that they were here for quite some time. They left behind so few clues. They are largely mysterious. Nor do we know why they stopped. It's as though they set down their tools and just walked away one day never to return.

Then why do elephants appear in New World art?