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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman
Well, to be fair, is not arguing also a term for a more heated discussion? That's what people call arguing. Heated disagreements. Discussions can be disagreements, but I think the overall point is that he's not here to raise heat. I know I don't like arguing. I like discussions.
But Tributary, you should at least get some more info on what a musician does before stating something. Trust me when I say music users can easily be offended. Trust. Me. Seriously. Emphasis. I understand you're pretty new here, but I won't assume this is your first forum. Are you a musician?
Now, for my own input: Prog has always been very big, and there's already been one "revival" of prog called Neo-Prog. Not really a revival, but prog for a new era. ANd we still have original prog these days, like Porcupine Tree. If prog goes outside of the mainstream, it's big enough now to get a revival sometime in the future, even if that revival ends up short lived. I mean, we've already had a few revival genres.
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Well for my money the phrase "not here to argue" indicates a few things: a) hes lost the debate but doesn't want to admit that and so is kind of running off without settling it or admitting defeat b) he has no further fuel for his argument or c) he's a little overwhelmed by the response he got. His thread is in itself a question, and he was the one who loudly proclaimed that the creation of music on or with computers was not "real" music. He's abjectly failed to back this up or argue conclusively, refusing to provide samples even though asked to do so repeatedly (he didn't have to insert the videos, he could have just linked to them. Surely any exposure is good exposure for these artists?) instead falling back on repeating the same points over and over, like a child with its fingers stuck in its ears.
And since you ask, he said in the OP he runs a prog record label or store, so he's more than familiar with musicians I would say, which is another reason why I find his high-handed attitude very annoying. It comes across as the worst accusation levelled at prog down the years, that of being pretentious and arrogant, thinking yourself better than others. This is definitely, without question, the impression he gives me. Don't know about you.
But come on: if you start an argument/debate/discussion, finish it or at least admit defeat.