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Originally Posted by Aux-In
@ The_Batlord.
Tough words from someone who litters this board with anti-Christian rants.
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The definition of ad hominem.
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I'm not interested in false rhetoric and hyperboly. The shooter was born in the U.S. and from what I've read he wasn't particularly religious. This is a blend of good old-fashioned hate mixed with pseudo-religious and ideological components. If you can prove that he had legit ties to ISIS (international), then it is in fact domestic terrorism. Terrorism all the same, though. If you shoot up a joint because you're mad that the sky is blue, it's still terrorism.
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I haven't read **** about this person. The news I've read about him amounted to nothing about him personally. Which is why in another thread I questioned why he was being linked to ISIS. SINCE HE HAD NO LINK TO ISIS THAT I COULD SEE.
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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69
well OF COURSE it is. any type of violence on civilians whether politically or religiously motivated is terrorism. MY problem is with people only calling muslim terrorists terrorists. there are MANY non muslim terrorists. but it seems to me that word is only used for muslims now.
also... even if he did it out of pure hatred for gays it would be terrorism. because he still has an agenda... he hates gays and wants them to die. he wants this acceptance of gays in the west to stop. there.
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The pure definition of terrorism is inclusive to the point of being useless, and not even clear. The kind of organized terrorism perpetuated by groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda is very rare. The only non-muslim group I can think of like them is the IRA, and they're disbanded. You can define terrorism however you want, but Islamic terrorism is an entirely different breed from how many people would define terrorism.
Whether Israel practices the same kinds of actions I can't say, as our country is in bed with Israel to the point that it's considered anti-semitic to even criticise them. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. But this American certainly does not support Israelis making settlements in Palestinian lands, and then having their government support them.
And calling the Iraq War terrorism is dumb. It may have been an unjust war, but it's still war. To redefine war as terrorism would be to make both words pointless. That's not to elevate what happened above a terrorist action, but to literally equate the two makes no sense.