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Old 04-29-2017, 01:15 PM   #5046 (permalink)
Isbjørn
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls View Post
On the other, if you know you need to be clean to get welfare
Regardless, substance dependence shouldn't make you less eligible for benefits.

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Force people to look for a job of the want assistance.
That's how it's done most places, I reckon. It's how it works in Norway, at least.

DWV, my problem here is that you brought up personal choices as a factor of seemingly macroeconomically significanct factor for why people are unemployed/on benefits/experienceing hardships. I don't see what that brings to the discussion apart from implying that people shouldn't receive benefits if their situation is caused by bad decision-making - and who's supposed to be the judge of that? Bureaucrats?

Fixation on personal decision-making is for the neoliberals who cut in out welfare, admittedly to create "incentives" to work.

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Sounds good on paper in practice there's actually barely any people who are able to work collecting welfare
I don't know about the US, but in Norway there are many able-bodied people receiving unemployment benefits due to transitional unemployment.
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