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Originally Posted by elphenor
the problem with it is that's absolutely false and not at all what right and left mean
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That's why I defined exactly what I meant by left and right. And from that starting point the discussion is relatively easy if you agree to those terms. If not, we use different terms.
You posted some terms in the following post that were a little but nutters, but I'd be happy to go with something like conservative, liberal and socialist.