Originally Posted by Goofle

That's why I defined exactly what I meant by left and right. And from that starting point the discussion is relatively easy if you agree to those terms. If not, we use different terms.

You posted some terms in the following post that were a little but nutters, but I'd be happy to go with something like conservative, liberal and socialist.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.