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Old 07-19-2018, 07:45 PM   #170 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls View Post
That'd be a cool argument if there wasn't 1000+ years of human progress that coincided with a change in thought.. Human history has never changed by incentivizing the powerful few, it changed from the hard work of the subservient class, but you'd rather bitch than do the work. Like most people, you're stuck in the mindset of wanting a bandaid fix instead of a long term solution.
The subservient few do not change society, they build and maintain the infrastructure. Do you think it was the poor who developed democracy in Athens or do you think it was daffy elites who had the leisure to engage in intellectual pursuits such as experimental politics because they didn't have to sweat their balls off just to survive? Do you think it was the poor who were responsible for the Enlightenment that developed into modern, democratic, Western culture, or was it elites like John Locke and Thomas Jefferson? The poor are too busy worrying about being able to feed themselves and their families. But they also provide the opportunity for those elites to masturbate things like the social contract and democracy and capitalism while never truly benefiting from those ideas the same as the elites.

And as much progress has been created by those elites they've never managed or just been truly committed to dissolving those power structures that have created such inequalities. Our politicians and capitalists are still aristocrats and our poor are still peasants, just with different terms to describe them. The poor will never save themselves and the elites will never save them either.

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The difference between the junkie and the cancer patient is that the cancer patient isn't actively causing intentional harms to others and themselves.
The difference between junkies and cancer patients is that the disease junkies suffer from does not make them sympathetic. Both have diseases that destroy them but the junkie's disease is one of the mind that is hard to conceptualize. I don't like associating with junkies either since my experience with them is that they are toxic to everyone they know, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a debilitating disease worthy of sympathy, no matter how galling it is to give them that sympathy.
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Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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