^ Ok, windsock. I'll take a look at Frankie Cosmos. Thanks. (I think I dipped into Fiest a few years back and came away unimpressed.)
Perhaps they have a similar starting point, but with a different personality, ended up with a different product: anyway, the honesty of the Florist lyrics put me in mind of some of the artists mentioned here:-
https://www.musicbanter.com/hardcore...ustic-emo.html