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Old 08-23-2020, 04:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
jwb
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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic View Post
Well, I'd def push back on the idea that felons should be allowed access to guns, even if it means going against two of my fave mods:-





My Case: it's not to be vindictive about people who have paid their debt to society, it's about the notion that a person has shown themselves capable of a felony.
Definition, my bold:
So fundamentally you don't believe in the possibility of rehabilitation.



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Plenty of people are released from prison with almost full rights, but plus some restrictions. I suspect that some aren't allowed passports; someone who constructed a bomb is prob barred from working in the chemicals industry. Pedafiles aren't allowed near schools and have to register address changes, some people have long-term restraining orders, etc, etc.

I'm in favour of giving felons a fair second chance, but losing the right to bear arms is not much of an impedement to leading a normal life imo.
in the case of pedophiles and schools etc there's an obvious added risk involved - to a certain extent they are dealing with psychological issues and it's best to avoid triggering a relapse into bad behavior, the same way alcoholics avoid bars.

Felons with legal guns don't pose an obvious enough risk to strip them of a basic right guaranteed in the bill of rights. For reasons I explained above, gun crimes are much more likely to be committed with illegal guns because legal ones can be traced through ballistic forensics. And only a fraction of the felons are even gun crime offenders in the first place. Out of those... The gang killings are carried out almost exclusively with illegal guns. Domestic crimes sometimes involve legal guns but that group has a really low recitivism rate.
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