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Old 05-10-2021, 09:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
there's a term for this, although I don't remember it

but I lean towards some concepts inherently having value

Freedom, Truth, Justice etc

they are not justified by their outcomes, they're justified by some notion of righteousness whether it's learned or biological
is the term deontology? I think that's the most common alternative to utilitarianism.

I don't agree with you though. Like freedom doesn't have inherent value despite the outcome. . necessary limits are always put on freedom because of the bad outcomes that unmitigated freedom can cause

As for truth... See the Jews hiding in your attick and a Nazi asking you about them example

Everything is a means to and end imo

But none of these moral systems work perfectly cause they are all ad hoc rationalizations for an inner sense of morality that is ultimately more instinctual and less strictly rational... Imo
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