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Originally Posted by rubber soul
One of the unfortunate lesson of politics is you can't get everything you want, so you take what you can.
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I agree with this, as I imagine rubber soul's "take what you can" has the add on of "by democratic means"
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Originally Posted by Frownland
Does anyone really want what we're getting out of modern politics though?
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Most Americans and most MBers would presumably answer "No".
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We should at least attempt to take what we can instead of undercutting ourselves from the outset.
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With your "take what you can", I'm not so sure that it has an add-on of "by democratic means", Frownland, but without that, what is it? A quote from a speech at the Ellipse before storming the Capitol ?